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Re:AI, Lean, and the Future of Formal Verification, with Lea... by Ericson2314 on Saturday October 31, 2026 @10:03AM (#50316317)
PBT testing and fuzzing are basically the same thing in my mind.

What's funny though is that the reasoning needed to say some sampling is comprehensive....makes it closer fo proofs! AFL — coverage-based fuzzing — was the original innovator here, but imagine an interpreter — code coverage in the interpreter itself isn't so good, you also want to explore the interpreted program!

This is why "is my testing comprehensive?" is actually an open-ended problem that, in the limit, is just as hard as formal verification.

I suspect we're basically going to see a convergence here. Randomized testing can be called "Monte Carlo formal verification" hehe.

Re:AI, Lean, and the Future of Formal Verification, with Lea... by chamomeal on Saturday October 31, 2026 @11:30AM (#50317069)
> This is why "is my testing comprehensive?" is actually an open-ended problem that, in the limit, is just as hard as formal verification.

Well said! I learned about PBT in the first place because I watched a talk where the speaker referenced the story of foundationDB. Super interesting stuff. If anybody wants a link I can dig it up