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Re:Blockchain intelligence firms link North Korea to $6.3B h... by littlecranky67 on Saturday October 31, 2026 @03:11AM (#50313916)
That is bs. Before 1971 we had a gold-backed monetary system and no record of deflation in the history of mankind.
Re:Blockchain intelligence firms link North Korea to $6.3B h... by defrost on Saturday October 31, 2026 @03:31AM (#50313971)
You need an explicit /s tag.

( Eg: Collapse of the Spanish Empire )

Re:Blockchain intelligence firms link North Korea to $6.3B h... by littlecranky67 on Saturday October 31, 2026 @04:32AM (#50314204)
So you claim that in the last 6000 years of history we had stagnation? I would claim the world economy did nothing but grow on asset-backend currencies - sure, there is some localized, small (as in relative to the timeframe) outliers that don't matter.
Re:Blockchain intelligence firms link North Korea to $6.3B h... by defrost on Saturday October 31, 2026 @04:48AM (#50314260)
It's not _my_ claim, and it's very mild in comparison to your claim.

> small outliers that don't matter.

The Spanish Empire that spanned a globe and had a footprint in North America only recently eclipsed by the modern USofA is a "small outlier" ?

Uh-huh.

Re:Blockchain intelligence firms link North Korea to $6.3B h... by littlecranky67 on Saturday October 31, 2026 @05:06AM (#50314329)
In the macroscopic view of civilization it is a total outlier, yes.
Re:Blockchain intelligence firms link North Korea to $6.3B h... by cyberax on Saturday October 31, 2026 @05:34PM (#50320455)
> So you claim that in the last 6000 years of history we had stagnation?

Yes. That's exactly my claim. Without instruments to support growth, the pre-industrial economy did not grow.

The European Industrial Revolution was kick-started by looted gold and other precious materials (like spices) that were looted from the colonies. It provided unexpected inflation by physically increasing the amount of available currency.

> I would claim the world economy did nothing but grow on asset-backend currencies - sure, there is some localized, small (as in relative to the timeframe) outliers that don't matter.

If you are bringing up 6000 years of stagnation, then our current economic growth is nothing but an outlier.

Re:Blockchain intelligence firms link North Korea to $6.3B h... by cyberax on Saturday October 31, 2026 @03:45AM (#50314026)
> That is bs.

I assume that you're just completely ignorant, and as such, you can't be educated.

> Before 1971 we had a gold-backed monetary system

We didn't.

> and no record of deflation in the history of mankind.

Germany, 1932-1933. US, 1927-1933. And so on.

Re:Blockchain intelligence firms link North Korea to $6.3B h... by defrost on Saturday October 31, 2026 @03:53AM (#50314056)
Gold bug fever blinkers the mind.
Re:Blockchain intelligence firms link North Korea to $6.3B h... by littlecranky67 on Saturday October 31, 2026 @04:25AM (#50314176)
Yes you can pick individual outliers, but clearly the world economy has been growing on a gold-based (or other shiny object backed) currency for literally thousands of years all over the world. Picking out individual cases is literally like looking at the 0.1%. Or do you seriously claim we had stagnation in the thousands of years of civilization, and only started to have groth since 1971? Then I know who is the ignorant one.

See also: https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

Re:Blockchain intelligence firms link North Korea to $6.3B h... by cyberax on Saturday October 31, 2026 @04:51PM (#50320088)
So episodes of deflation that inevitably resulted in stagnation are "outliers" and thus don't matter.

> Or do you seriously claim we had stagnation in the thousands of years of civilization, and only started to have groth since 1971?

The economic systems have not been based on precious metals for quite a while. There simply has not been enough gold (or silver) to back up the economy for at least 200-300 years. Instead, the global economy was based on the _promise_ of getting gold.

In other words, fiat money.