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Re:Anthropic trained Claude on illegally obtained Stanford p... by TFNA on Tuesday October 27, 2026 @04:52PM (#50265635)
Do you have a citation for the claim that Schwartz was only copying "publicly funded research papers"? My understanding is that he was trying to pull all of JSTOR, which would be copyrighted papers going back to all kinds of funding models from many countries, not just US public-funded research.

Don't get me wrong, as a researcher myself most of us see him (and his successors in piracy) as heroes that make our work a lot easier by making everything so easily accessible, usually even more convenient than our own institutional libraries. But your claim sounds like inaccurate myth-building.

Re:Anthropic trained Claude on illegally obtained Stanford p... by georgemcbay on Tuesday October 27, 2026 @05:31PM (#50266134)
I'm not the person you replied to, but I assume it was more of an overly broad generalization than an intentional attempt at "myth-building".

A lot (but yes, not all) of that research is publicly funded and then locked away behind corporate paywalls.

Re:Anthropic trained Claude on illegally obtained Stanford p... by TFNA on Tuesday October 27, 2026 @05:53PM (#50266378)
JSTOR is a major repository of twentieth-century humanities publications. When these come from the US, they are usually privately funded research. HN is dominated by a STEM crowd that tends to think only about that scholarship, which is often publicly funded, but in a discussion like this one needs a good familiarity with what JSTOR is and what it contains.
Re:Anthropic trained Claude on illegally obtained Stanford p... by exe34 on Tuesday October 27, 2026 @06:08PM (#50266536)
Eh, I assume the humanities are a tiny portion of the funding for academia. Their equipment is what, coloured pencils and expensive tea? Hardly anything compared to a large hadron collider.
Re:Anthropic trained Claude on illegally obtained Stanford p... by TFNA on Tuesday October 27, 2026 @06:19PM (#50266650)
The humanities being cheaper than STEM is irrelevant to this thread about Schwarz bulk-downloading a source of myriad copyrighted papers.
Re:Anthropic trained Claude on illegally obtained Stanford p... by exe34 on Tuesday October 27, 2026 @06:40PM (#50266882)
I was referring to the comment about private vs public funding. Yes, the only relevant fact is about the morality of hiding knowledge behind exorbitant pay walls. Academics submit papers freely, and sometimes pay for the privilege, peer reviewers work for free, and then the rent seekers charge everybody to read it. It's immoral. I agree.