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Re:The 1.5°C goal of the Paris Agreement is no longer viable by greyw on Wednesday October 21, 2026 @06:06AM (#50178395)
Its the other way around. Climate is going to be least important of your problems if you cant put food on the table.
Re:The 1.5°C goal of the Paris Agreement is no longer viable by TheOtherHobbes on Wednesday October 21, 2026 @06:11AM (#50178433)
Climate catastrophe will be the reason there's no food on the table.

This is already happening to crops like cocoa and coffee, and crops like maize and wheat are next.

If we're too stupid as a species to understand this, we can just let Darwin clean this up and give the planet another chance with different species in a few million years or so.

Re:The 1.5°C goal of the Paris Agreement is no longer viable by goda90 on Wednesday October 21, 2026 @07:58AM (#50179430)
Humans are probably the only Earthlings that have any chance of achieving interplanetary civilization and persisting long term. If this civilization collapses and our energy technologies are lost then any future attempts at civilization will be facing a steeper slope to get those technologies back without the cheap and abundant fossil fuels we burned up. Many of those fuels may never return to this planet because life has evolved considerably so things like the Carboniferous may not happen again.
Re:The 1.5°C goal of the Paris Agreement is no longer viable by 233mhz on Wednesday October 21, 2026 @11:45AM (#50182932)
> Humans are probably the only Earthlings that have any chance of achieving interplanetary civilization and persisting long term.

Stop watching sci fi my dude, there is 0% chance we leave the solar system and probably even earth.

It's not a video game, there is no speed run, there is nothing out there for us, what's the hurry with burning and destroying our home planet ? Do you think we'll have it better on Mars lmao?

Re:The 1.5°C goal of the Paris Agreement is no longer viable by goda90 on Wednesday October 21, 2026 @01:04PM (#50184234)
I'm not sure why you're responding as if my comment is some sort of hopium. I'm saying that if we don't stop ourselves from making Earth uninhabitable to us in the very near future, that this is the peak of technological civilization on Earth for all time. Whether human descendants or another sapient species comes out of the climate turmoil and tries to advance again, they're gonna hit a wall.

All our ambitions and dreams for the future hinge on reversing the damage we've done.

Re:The 1.5°C goal of the Paris Agreement is no longer viable by greyw on Wednesday October 21, 2026 @06:59PM (#50188861)
My point is that people want their short term economic needs met (food, shelter, quality of life).

You wont find broad support for policies that save an abstract future 40y away if you cause huge economic hardship on current people.

You can see how quickly support for addressing climate change erroded in the last few once more pressing short term needs of people were not met anymore. Academics and the upper middle class can keep theorizing about how to save the future because they can afford it while the less fortunate will turn to policies that dont hurt their short term prospects.

Bottom line is that ignoring the economic impact is foolish. No lasting political support

Re:The 1.5°C goal of the Paris Agreement is no longer viable by 233mhz on Wednesday October 21, 2026 @06:25AM (#50178574)
> Climate is going to be least important of your problems if you cant put food on the table.

??? We're already having record low crop yields CAUSED by climate change right now my dude. You won't have food on your plate BECAUSE of climate change

Re:The 1.5°C goal of the Paris Agreement is no longer viable by greyw on Wednesday October 21, 2026 @06:38PM (#50188678)
We dont have record low global crop yield. Are you confusing single countries with global output?