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Re:Do We Really Need Another Smartphone OS? by trimbo on Sunday January 06, 2013 @12:49PM (#5016973)
Whether these succeed or not, I simply don't get it.

Android is open source. Fork it. Improve it. Why build something completely new. Is it just to keep a brand name like "Ubuntu" and "Firefox"?

Re:Do We Really Need Another Smartphone OS? by ricardobeat on Sunday January 06, 2013 @01:36PM (#5017157)
Android is not really open-source, you can only get source code for old versions, never the latest release.
Re:Do We Really Need Another Smartphone OS? by trimbo on Sunday January 06, 2013 @01:49PM (#5017216)
4.2.1 is the current version and the source was available on the day it released.
Re:Do We Really Need Another Smartphone OS? by ricardobeat on Sunday January 06, 2013 @02:36PM (#5017406)
Android.com only lists 4.1 as available. Either way, by only making source code available on the day of release it is by definition already old. That means development happens in the dark.

android was also deemed the least open of a bunch of high-profile open-source projects: http://www.visionmobile.com/rsc/researchreports/Open%20Gover...

Re:Do We Really Need Another Smartphone OS? by madisp on Sunday January 06, 2013 @01:04PM (#5017031)
As far as I understand it actually is a fork of Android in the sense that it runs the Android-flavoured Linux kernel.
Re:Do We Really Need Another Smartphone OS? by ttuominen on Sunday January 06, 2013 @01:09PM (#5017046)
This, and also Android's overall userspace design is kind of idiosyncratic. I'm sure there are other legitimate designs of a Linux-based mobile OS, which don't rely so heavily on Java and a virtual machine. Ubuntu will be Qt-based, for example. That throws out the possibility to reuse the Android application framework.
Re:Do We Really Need Another Smartphone OS? by trimbo on Sunday January 06, 2013 @01:24PM (#5017092)
Ok, but there's nothing that prevents them from implementing QT on Android using the NDK. You don't have to throw out all application compatibility to achieve something like this.
Re:Do We Really Need Another Smartphone OS? by madisp on Sunday January 06, 2013 @01:43PM (#5017186)
If I remember correctly then it can also run Android apps in the same WM together with other apps. It actually shouldn't be too hard to replace Android's WindowManager with some other implementation (say, QT-based) due to the nature of Binder (Android's IPC mechanism).
Re:Do We Really Need Another Smartphone OS? by ricardobeat on Sunday January 06, 2013 @01:37PM (#5017169)
Haven't they merged the "android kernel" into the linux kernel recently?
Re:Do We Really Need Another Smartphone OS? by ttuominen on Sunday January 06, 2013 @02:00PM (#5017265)
Many features, not all: https://lwn.net/Articles/514901/