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Re:Apple HomeView by kriz9 on Tuesday October 13, 2026 @10:00AM (#50071901)
I don't think this joke works anymore. Siri uses Gemini now.
Re:Apple HomeView by joshstrange on Tuesday October 13, 2026 @12:18PM (#50074157)
Correct, it's not faster. Now it's slower to the point you aren't sure if it's ever going to work, then it comes back with some error.

Sure, it stopped being quite a stupid as before but it's not the nirvana they were promising, checks notes, 3+ years ago.

So it doesn't have the same issues as old Siri, just new issues.

Re:Apple HomeView by edot on Tuesday October 13, 2026 @03:42PM (#50077507)
Yes, it’s insanely slow now. So bad, I unenrolled from the beta. I mostly use Siri for reminders and alarms and somehow it was spending upwards of 5 seconds on the new Siri AI to do these tasks. Unusable.
Re:Apple HomeView by joshstrange on Tuesday October 13, 2026 @04:18PM (#50078049)
> I mostly use Siri for reminders and alarms

Ahh yes, the only 2 things I can trust it for. The same tasks that now take longer and fail more often. I guess it understands me a little better but it's been rough. Also I see they left in the fun bugs of:

Me: "Siri, set a reminder for 1pm for XYZ"

Siri: ....

Siri: ....

Siri: ....

iPhone: No indication of anything done or Siri still waiting, looks like it just gave up

Me: "Siri, set a reminder for 1pm for XYZ"

Siri: ....

Siri: ....

Siri: ....

Siri: ....

Siri: ....

Siri: "Ok, I've set your reminder"

_1 pm rolls around_

2 reminders fire...

Re:Apple HomeView by geuis on Tuesday October 13, 2026 @10:07AM (#50072014)
so responses like "I've turned on the lights", but you're still standing in the dark. That's my anecdotal level of interactions with any Gemini model.
Re:Apple HomeView by longtimelistnr on Tuesday October 13, 2026 @10:16AM (#50072151)
It's still unbelievably limited and lackluster
Re:Apple HomeView by buzzerbetrayed on Tuesday October 13, 2026 @10:03AM (#50071951)
Gemini backed Siri sucks too though. The frequency in which it just.. does nothing, is crazy. Joke still works.
Re:Apple HomeView by macintux on Tuesday October 13, 2026 @10:10AM (#50072045)
Yep, I really wish I could revert to previous-Siri on my iPhone 15 Pro. Old Siri was reasonably predictable and faster. New Siri is slower, more ambitious, and fails more often.
Re:Apple HomeView by deinonychus on Tuesday October 13, 2026 @03:30PM (#50077296)
you can. i just did it on my 17 pro and my watch. i get instant timers again. it's unreal we lost this technology.

go to settings > siri > and turn off siri entirely. it doesn't break anything. then turn it back on, and they give you the option for siri AI or old dumb siri.

enjoy :)

Re:Apple HomeView by macintux on Tuesday October 13, 2026 @03:36PM (#50077387)
Thank you very much. Whew.
Re:Apple HomeView by darkstar999 on Tuesday October 13, 2026 @10:15AM (#50072147)
Gemini can be pretty bad on my Pixel phone and Nest speakers.
Re:Apple HomeView by karussell on Tuesday October 13, 2026 @12:25PM (#50074302)
I wonder if they use Gemini how can the promise "Private for all" be fulfilled? Local model like gemma4?
Re:Apple HomeView by avree on Tuesday October 13, 2026 @03:33PM (#50077338)
Because they don't "use Gemini".

"These new capabilities are powered by the next generation of Apple Foundation Models, custom-built in collaboration with Google and its Gemini models for deeply integrated Apple Intelligence experiences. "

Re:Apple HomeView by Cub3 on Tuesday October 13, 2026 @06:41PM (#50079948)
I use Siri to control my smarthome and it's still a horrible experience so yes, the joke still works
Re:Apple HomeView by wilg on Tuesday October 13, 2026 @07:14PM (#50080286)
Yes: with Siri AI when I say "Siri, good evening" it says "Good evening!" instead of setting my "Good Evening" Apple Home scene which is what it previously did. (This is a suggested scene name in Apple Home.)
Re:Apple HomeView by baby on Tuesday October 13, 2026 @09:45PM (#50081386)
Since when? I tried a few days ago and it still asked me “do you want to use ChatGPT?”
Re:Apple HomeView by pornel on Tuesday October 13, 2026 @10:34PM (#50081682)
It's slower and can make more complex mistakes now.

When I tell it "remind me at X to Y", it sets an alarm with a label set to the reminder, instead of an actual reminder. I see it has Gemini's tool calling capability, but it still has Siri's smarts.