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Re:Talorys – A self-hosted personal AI agent on Cloudflare's... by vlovich123 on Saturday October 10, 2026 @11:42AM (#50034030)
For all the people complaining this isn’t self hosted, it’s open source - it’s a relatively minor tweak to replace the AI calls to point to a local model server. Everything else runs locally via wrangler. It’s less than 20 minutes of work by hand, less than a minute to ask AI to do this.

It’s a weird complaint for people who supposedly like hacker culture.

Re:Talorys – A self-hosted personal AI agent on Cloudflare's... by jambutters on Saturday October 10, 2026 @01:13PM (#50034958)
Eh, it's the phrasing that's off-putting. Things that can be self hosted usually emphasize that first and top most, with a paid option being mentioned 2nd.
Re:Talorys – A self-hosted personal AI agent on Cloudflare's... by jonplackett on Saturday October 10, 2026 @01:34PM (#50035168)
Yeah completely agree. Jeez someone made something cool.

It’s self hosted as in not by an ai provider. This is obvious.

Sure it’s set up to run on some infrastructure but just tweak it if you want to and stop complaining.

Re:Talorys – A self-hosted personal AI agent on Cloudflare's... by croes on Saturday October 10, 2026 @03:18PM (#50036178)
But it’s not self hosted like in self hosted.

Why add a false feature claim if the true features are cool enough?

Re:Talorys – A self-hosted personal AI agent on Cloudflare's... by jonplackett on Sunday October 11, 2026 @10:03AM (#50043422)
Because the Cloudflare hosting is just a choice. You can change it easily.

The self hosted part is about the ai provider.

Again. This is obvious.

Re:Talorys – A self-hosted personal AI agent on Cloudflare's... by tavavex on Saturday October 10, 2026 @04:58PM (#50037110)
This is like saying you're self-hosting a game server because it's not hosted on the developers' server, but on the server of some other random third party you're paying to run it. No, self-hosting means you run it on hardware you own. Cloudflare is no stranger to redefining completely established terms for marketing reasons (see 'Cloudflare OS'), how about we stop buying it every time?
Re:Talorys – A self-hosted personal AI agent on Cloudflare's... by LoganDark on Saturday October 10, 2026 @09:38PM (#50038979)
IME Self-hosting means you're doing a specific thing in a general-purpose place. As opposed to paying for a specific-purpose place.

So like, running bitwarden on a VPS counts as self-hosting even if the VPS isn't physically in your home.

And installing postgres or redis on the VPS counts as self-hosting as opposed to paying for a dedicated database.

So does installing your own web server. Running your own ACME client for certificates. Etc.

It doesn't require hardware you own, the idea of self-hosting includes software you control.

Re:Talorys – A self-hosted personal AI agent on Cloudflare's... by croes on Saturday October 10, 2026 @03:22PM (#50036213)
Here my program with feature A, ok without feature A, but you can add it with 20 min of work.

Are we now adding all possible features to the description just because they can be added by hand or LLM?

And since when is hacker culture about false advertising

Re:Talorys – A self-hosted personal AI agent on Cloudflare's... by blacklite on Saturday October 10, 2026 @04:06PM (#50036622)
Who said they like hacker culture in 2026?
Re:Talorys – A self-hosted personal AI agent on Cloudflare's... by vlovich123 on Saturday October 10, 2026 @05:49PM (#50037534)
Then why are you on a website for hacker news?
Re:Talorys – A self-hosted personal AI agent on Cloudflare's... by 876433790 on Sunday October 11, 2026 @07:57AM (#50042307)
You're the kind of hacker that self-hosts email on gmail.com
Re:Talorys – A self-hosted personal AI agent on Cloudflare's... by _superposition_ on Sunday October 11, 2026 @09:08AM (#50042967)
Thank you. Looking for info on the OP and all I get is a self hosted argument. HN gets so pedantic sometimes.
Re:Talorys – A self-hosted personal AI agent on Cloudflare's... by viccis on Sunday October 11, 2026 @01:23PM (#50045525)
Yeah I was hoping to figure out what this thing's main distinction or value add was in these comments and it's almost nothing but people trying to be the smartest guy in the room by correcting the title's claim. I would never name it specifically lest I break the rules, but that's a pattern that drove me here from another site years ago, and it's sad to see it more common here.