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Re:US imposes sanctions on ICC hours after former judge wins... by jittles on Friday October 09, 2026 @11:20AM (#50021788)
Who should be responsible for enforcing the Geneva Conventions and other international humanitarian law? Or are we finally admitting that the only "international law" we officially recognize is Might Makes Right?
Re:US imposes sanctions on ICC hours after former judge wins... by bluGill on Friday October 09, 2026 @11:54AM (#50022344)
Nobody is. Russia is repeatedly violating them despite being signers of the treaty, and nobody does anything.

I don't like it, but I'm not signing up to do anything about it, and I'm not going to sign my kids up for it either.

Re:US imposes sanctions on ICC hours after former judge wins... by croes on Friday October 09, 2026 @12:16PM (#50022710)
I wouldn’t call the sanctions against Russia nothing
Re:US imposes sanctions on ICC hours after former judge wins... by bluGill on Friday October 09, 2026 @12:20PM (#50022782)
The sanctions were never about Geneva violations.
Re:US imposes sanctions on ICC hours after former judge wins... by croes on Friday October 09, 2026 @03:03PM (#50025206)
Because the war is already considered illegal and Russia sanctioned for that.

Not need for extra sanctions because of Geneva violations

Re:US imposes sanctions on ICC hours after former judge wins... by hvb2 on Friday October 09, 2026 @02:11PM (#50024506)
Usually that happens after the conflict. Like Yugoslavia or the Neurenberg trials.

I'm not holding my breath for Russia to be prosecuted, for starters because they're one of the countries that don't recognize it

Re:US imposes sanctions on ICC hours after former judge wins... by nradov on Friday October 09, 2026 @11:34AM (#50022031)
All signatories to the Geneva Conventions are responsible for enforcing it. The USA never ratified the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court and thus has no responsibility to enforce it.
Re:US imposes sanctions on ICC hours after former judge wins... by bawolff on Friday October 09, 2026 @11:47AM (#50022235)
Sure, but there is a difference between not helping and actively interfering with a court punishing international crimes.
Re:US imposes sanctions on ICC hours after former judge wins... by serf on Friday October 09, 2026 @12:10PM (#50022603)
>... with a court punishing international crimes.

that's the whole thing, the US doesn't agree with that assessment.

Re:US imposes sanctions on ICC hours after former judge wins... by watwut on Friday October 09, 2026 @12:34PM (#50023005)
US does agree with that assessment. US however think that international crimes are cool. Especially if they do it, but not only then.
Re:US imposes sanctions on ICC hours after former judge wins... by djaro on Friday October 09, 2026 @01:12PM (#50023601)
Which is fine, inside the US. But when Americans leave the US, they are no longer under US law, theyre under the law of whatever country they enter. Which means, if the country acknowledges the ICC, any American in that country falls under it. Just like a tourist in America has to follow American laws.
Re:US imposes sanctions on ICC hours after former judge wins... by nradov on Friday October 09, 2026 @01:29PM (#50023896)
Not exactly. Tourists are one thing, but US military personnel stationed in foreign countries typically operate under a status of forces agreement which limits the ways in which they are subject to the host country's laws.
Re:US imposes sanctions on ICC hours after former judge wins... by bawolff on Friday October 09, 2026 @06:30PM (#50027389)
yes when it comes to allies, but typically war crime stuff happens during conflicts, and usually in a conflict they are there without consent by definition.

People forget, that a war crime is simply a crime that (state) combatants dont have immunity for in war. The geneva convention gives immunity for everything that is not a war crime.

Re:US imposes sanctions on ICC hours after former judge wins... by senderista on Friday October 09, 2026 @01:23PM (#50023797)
See the "Hague Invasion Act"
Re:US imposes sanctions on ICC hours after former judge wins... by bawolff on Friday October 09, 2026 @06:26PM (#50027349)
The us does actually agree that the crimes in question are crimes. They are crimes domestically in the united states, and the US has supported punishing people for them internationally. The US is arguably the group that came up with the idea of prosecuting people for international crimes in the first place (nuremburg)

they dont like the specific court, and more generally they dont like when the rule of law applies to them and their allies instead of just enemies. But they do recognize all these things as crime

Re:US imposes sanctions on ICC hours after former judge wins... by quickthrowman on Friday October 09, 2026 @12:04PM (#50022511)
It has always been might makes right, are you under the impression it wasn’t that way at some point? I’m not endorsing the actions of the current administration, simply stating how global geopolitics works. There’s no such thing as a supranational organization that can force a nuclear power to do anything of consequence.

The only people that get prosecuted by the ICC are people that lose wars (no winner has ever been prosecuted) and are also from nations that do not have nuclear weapons / nuclear protection.

Re:US imposes sanctions on ICC hours after former judge wins... by croes on Friday October 09, 2026 @12:18PM (#50022741)
Netanyahu
Re:US imposes sanctions on ICC hours after former judge wins... by senderista on Friday October 09, 2026 @01:25PM (#50023829)
This precedent of victor's justice dates from the Nuremberg trials, where Soviet war crimes were never prosecuted or even discussed.
Re:US imposes sanctions on ICC hours after former judge wins... by williamdclt on Friday October 09, 2026 @11:53AM (#50022325)
> Or are we finally admitting that the only "international law" we officially recognize is Might Makes Right?

People like Trump and Hegseth have been saying that very explicitly in at least the past couple years

Re:US imposes sanctions on ICC hours after former judge wins... by idiotsecant on Friday October 09, 2026 @11:28AM (#50021940)
I mean... just about every 'enforcement' of international norms has been by american hard and soft power. Might has always made right, it's just that the guy with the biggest gun happened to have western liberal values.

Seems like that changed a little in the last decade. Hopefully it's not forever, but who knows.

Re:US imposes sanctions on ICC hours after former judge wins... by newCrotchSmell on Friday October 09, 2026 @11:47AM (#50022238)
"Finally admitting"

Google League of Nations

We're repeating old social tropes the 50+ year old leadership lived through.

It's sad and pathetic. The youth reliance on old leadership and putting that on them is elder abuse. McConnell and Feinstein handlers should be prosecuted for such.

This is 100% on lazy, low-skilled, younger American public that doesn't need Depends expecting the generation glazing over live on TV and vanishing from office only to be found months later in an institution

The censored for TV era propped such olds up on screen for decades and refused to challenge their speculations and bullshit; everyone actually believes the elders are cogent and capable but they never were. Just puppets of a bygone era of televised circuses beamed to the Wonder Bread eating masses