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Re:US Suspends Visa Program for Tech Firms Including Microsoft by happytoexplain on Thursday October 08, 2026 @02:15PM (#50009710)
I agree that the cruelty is disgusting and unnecessary, but you're going to have a very, very hard time convincing people that removing foreigners will not free up jobs for Americans.
Re:US Suspends Visa Program for Tech Firms Including Microsoft by bootsmann on Thursday October 08, 2026 @03:40PM (#50010980)
The average American doesn’t understand growth, you can see it in who they vote for.
Re:US Suspends Visa Program for Tech Firms Including Microsoft by dalyons on Thursday October 08, 2026 @07:32PM (#50013933)
pretty easy. over 50% of silicon valleys unicorns have an immigrant founder. if you cut off their ability to stay, you wouldn't have those companies, and there wouldn't be nearly as many high paying tech jobs.
Re:US Suspends Visa Program for Tech Firms Including Microsoft by bubblethink on Friday October 09, 2026 @03:19AM (#50017182)
That's preaching to the choir though. The people who need convincing aren't in silicon valley or even CA.
Re:US Suspends Visa Program for Tech Firms Including Microsoft by dalyons on Friday October 09, 2026 @09:33AM (#50020326)
Oh, I was aiming at the people in this comment section that need convincing. On a site populated by people paid by SV companies you’d think it wouldn’t need explaining. And yet
Re:US Suspends Visa Program for Tech Firms Including Microsoft by throwawayfifo on Tuesday October 13, 2026 @10:03AM (#50071956)
"Your country wouldn't have jobs if you don't import the billionaire Epstein class that strip mines the working class!"
Re:US Suspends Visa Program for Tech Firms Including Microsoft by sunshowers on Thursday October 08, 2026 @08:29PM (#50014405)
Thankfully, reasonable people do not fall victim to argumentum ad populum.
Re:US Suspends Visa Program for Tech Firms Including Microsoft by throwawayfifo on Tuesday October 13, 2026 @09:51AM (#50071761)
Thankfully, reasonable people understand the basics of job market dynamics (supply and demand).
Re:US Suspends Visa Program for Tech Firms Including Microsoft by happytoexplain on Tuesday October 13, 2026 @05:14PM (#50078872)
I didn't make that argument, and neither did the parent. I stated a salient, practical obstacle. You are projecting a fallacy onto your perceived rhetorical enemy - maybe there is a Latin name for that fallacy.

In reality, what reasonable people actually do is use all the information available to them to make decisions (which may be flawed). Which is what is happening.