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Re:OpenAI Withdraws 3 Math Papers by cma on Thursday October 08, 2026 @10:03AM (#50005930)
Many of the statements were already there and looked over by the community in lean prior to the work though, the statement can get formalized before the proof of it.
Re:OpenAI Withdraws 3 Math Papers by ijustlovemath on Thursday October 08, 2026 @10:07AM (#50005981)
I just think that with the vast amounts of compute involved and the tendency to reward hack, we can't assume the steps towards that formalization are without error until full human understanding of the formalization.
Re:OpenAI Withdraws 3 Math Papers by mkarrmann on Thursday October 08, 2026 @10:25AM (#50006213)
Repeating the above comment: most of the statements were already formalized prior OpenAI's work. So no, the statements were not "reward hacked".
Re:OpenAI Withdraws 3 Math Papers by mistercheph on Thursday October 08, 2026 @11:29AM (#50007024)
It doesn't have to be the statement, see the recent incident where someone used an LLM to generate a lean refutation of the collatz conjecture, the lean proof exploited bugs in the lean kernel.

https://lawrencecpaulson.github.io/2026/07/30/Collatz.html

Re:OpenAI Withdraws 3 Math Papers by Jtarii on Thursday October 08, 2026 @11:54AM (#50007384)
That proof was artificially constructed specifically to show the exploit. It wasn't a real attempt at a proof that was later shown to be using an exploit.

I'm unaware of any serious proofs that have been shown to have a kernel exploit in them.

Re:OpenAI Withdraws 3 Math Papers by mkarrmann on Thursday October 08, 2026 @12:26PM (#50007865)
That's a different argument than ijustlovemath is making

I agree with Jtarii that it's very unlikely a Lean bug is critical to most of these proofs. But we're in strange times, so I agree wtih the sentiment that we should wait for further analysis before declaring complete confidence in the proofs.

Re:OpenAI Withdraws 3 Math Papers by engineeringwoke on Thursday October 08, 2026 @03:54PM (#50011167)
Humans have near-identical incentives to cheat compared to LLMs
Re:OpenAI Withdraws 3 Math Papers by runarberg on Friday October 09, 2026 @01:29AM (#50016353)
No we don‘t.