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Re:Subquadratic 3SUM and Subcubic APSP by PhunkyPhil on Tuesday October 06, 2026 @02:04PM (#49981938)
> I want lower energy bills, lower rent, better understanding of health etc. more than I want theorems.

These efforts aren't mutually exclusive. I hate to be snide, but a lot of people would criticize you for being a mathematician because they want lower energy bills, lower rent, better understanding of health etc

Re:Subquadratic 3SUM and Subcubic APSP by itemize123 on Tuesday October 06, 2026 @10:01PM (#49987074)
obviously the overlap is tiny so people are not excited.

And yes, nobody is that excited about vatsachak's mathematician-ism. it's just a thing he do. And now it's just a thing AI do.

Re:Subquadratic 3SUM and Subcubic APSP by TripolitianFish on Wednesday October 07, 2026 @11:30AM (#49994234)
I don’t think you hate to be snide even a little bit, if I’m honest. The difference being that the entirety of mathematics research has never pulled in the CapEx that anthropic or OAI is. Mathematicians in academia are mostly paid to teach, mind you.

I’m personally pretty excited by the results coming from these labs, but trying to dismiss the capital allocation objection with “but what about” is really silly.

Re:Subquadratic 3SUM and Subcubic APSP by PhunkyPhil on Wednesday October 07, 2026 @12:22PM (#49994982)
You can't just look at the funding for math departments. I think the value generation potential of every mathematician in the world could exceed that of the capex of these companies. How much is "lost" when a brilliant mind goes into pure math research instead of nuclear engineering, or civil engineering etc. Cumulatively, a lot.

Edit: I'm fine saying we're spending too much money on AI, in fact I agree, but "theorems" are not the only output of these companies. It's almost definitely not going to be worth the expenditure, but the benefits are not going to be only lean proofs

Re:Subquadratic 3SUM and Subcubic APSP by aleph_minus_one on Wednesday October 07, 2026 @06:48PM (#49999812)
> I think the value generation potential of every mathematician in the world could exceed that of the capex of these companies. How much is "lost" when a brilliant mind goes into pure math research instead of nuclear engineering, or civil engineering etc. Cumulatively, a lot.

This is already the situation that we have: because of the fierce competition for temporary academic positions, and very little hope for permanent positions, large quantities of really good mathematicians leave academia and work in a job that has basically nothing with mathematics (many mathematicians consider these jobs as bullshit jobs, but they pay the bill).