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Re:macOS Golden Gate Is a Buggy Mess by rayiner on Tuesday September 29, 2026 @12:21PM (#49895924)
The centering bugs are important. They show attention to detail. Humans are wired to see such sloppiness as indicative of deeper problems. If they can’t get the easy stuff right, it saps your trust that they got the harder stuff right.
Re:macOS Golden Gate Is a Buggy Mess by dkarl on Tuesday September 29, 2026 @12:35PM (#49896118)
Apple built their entire brand around this ethos, and being willing and able to execute it better than any other brand. Letting it slip undermines the Apple brand, which is the entire company.
Re:macOS Golden Gate Is a Buggy Mess by tyre on Tuesday September 29, 2026 @12:57PM (#49896446)
They built this brand for hardware, but, personally, I’ve never had this opinion of their software. I mean, being Unix based is better than Windows, but they’ve always been cooking weird UI refreshes or buggy software.

It’s crazy because they have (or had) something like $100bn in cash. Spending 0.5% of that per year on software (development, bug-fixing, performance, and QA) would help tremendously. They’d be insurmountable.

I know “they don’t have to”, but they don’t have to do a lot of things that they do on the hardware side. They choose to.

Re:macOS Golden Gate Is a Buggy Mess by astrange on Tuesday September 29, 2026 @01:55PM (#49897541)
> Spending 0.5% of that per year on software (development, bug-fixing, performance, and QA) would help tremendously. They’d be insurmountable.

Doesn't really help:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month

Also, "bug fixing" tends to add new bugs - any kind of change can cause regressions. It's quite difficult.

Re:macOS Golden Gate Is a Buggy Mess by coldtea on Tuesday September 29, 2026 @02:36PM (#49898255)
>Doesn't really help:

That's just a classic software development book. What makes its lessons scientific fact?

Also, it's about a singular project that's late.

Not necessarily applicable to dozens of projects with understuffed teams. Adding people to such teams to help, and assigning new people to look and fix bugs nobody cares about now because they're overworked on some "flagship" new features, is a different case.

Re:macOS Golden Gate Is a Buggy Mess by astrange on Sunday October 04, 2026 @02:12PM (#49956353)
It wouldn't help much in this case, because of Apple's "functional" team architecture - basically if you add more people to each project then there is no way for them to contribute in a way that adds up to a fulltime job.
Re:macOS Golden Gate Is a Buggy Mess by FireBeyond on Tuesday September 29, 2026 @02:01PM (#49897661)
This is a little simplistic. Investing more in the quality component of the org - valuable.

TM3 is basically "if this is your approach to shipping sooner / more quickly, then you're going to have a bad time." It's not a solution for a delayed project. It's not "you shouldn't invest more in the infrastructure of a large project" (or at least not blindly).

Re:macOS Golden Gate Is a Buggy Mess by astrange on Tuesday September 29, 2026 @02:13PM (#49897893)
It is valuable if you do it right, but it's difficult.

I've been promoting a specific aspect of performance quality recently, but it's mostly lead to other teams creating tests to monitor it that don't really make sense (along the lines of "if you use the computer it'll make the CPU % go up"), asking me to look at it, and then when I say it's probably fine I get a response along the lines of "it must be important because we already told all the executives about it."

Re:macOS Golden Gate Is a Buggy Mess by drfloyd51 on Tuesday September 29, 2026 @01:29PM (#49897041)
If they can’t get stuff you think is easy right, it saps your trust that they got the things you think are harder right.

Centering is not easy. Apparently. It requires human eye to verify. I can prove my decryption algorithm works. I can’t prove centering works.