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Re:OpenAI Feared "Optics" of what might appear on Hacker News by exitb on Sunday September 27, 2026 @05:37AM (#49865015)
> I dare say that car manufacturers are aware of their impact on the horse and buggy industry

Yes, but we're the horse in that scenario.

Re:OpenAI Feared "Optics" of what might appear on Hacker News by ChickeNES on Sunday September 27, 2026 @05:46AM (#49865080)
> Yes, but we're the horse in that scenario.

Good! End human labor.

Re:OpenAI Feared "Optics" of what might appear on Hacker News by exitb on Sunday September 27, 2026 @06:06AM (#49865224)
What other leverage, apart from labor, do masses have against the large capital owners? You imagine they'll give us basic income, just so we can buy products from them? That makes no sense at all.
Re:OpenAI Feared "Optics" of what might appear on Hacker News by ChickeNES on Sunday September 27, 2026 @06:16AM (#49865286)
Why do I need or care about leverage against "large capital owners"? I think you're just putting arguments I didn't make into my mouth.
Re:OpenAI Feared "Optics" of what might appear on Hacker News by literalAardvark on Sunday September 27, 2026 @06:31AM (#49865388)
I believe the parent may have assumed that you care about creature comforts such as water, food and shelter.
Re:OpenAI Feared "Optics" of what might appear on Hacker News by vrganj on Sunday September 27, 2026 @06:32AM (#49865394)
You need leverage because otherwise you're not getting fed, you're not getting a place to live, you're not getting electricity or medical care.

He's not putting that in your mouth, that is just the reality of what you need leverage for.

Re:OpenAI Feared "Optics" of what might appear on Hacker News by ChickeNES on Sunday September 27, 2026 @06:39AM (#49865445)
You keep promoting assumptions to facts by calling them "reality." Just because you seem hell bent to analyze everything through the lens of class power, doesn't mean that I do.
Re:OpenAI Feared "Optics" of what might appear on Hacker News by exitb on Sunday September 27, 2026 @07:19AM (#49865665)
It’s not about class. I literally leverage the demand for my labor to get money necessary for me to survive. There’s no other mechanism and our current economic setup is not moving towards creating one in any meaningful way.
Re:OpenAI Feared "Optics" of what might appear on Hacker News by vrganj on Sunday September 27, 2026 @07:37AM (#49865769)
How you wish to analyze things doesn't change how they are.

Reality doesn't care about your wishes. Your unwillingness to consider the systemic mechanisms at play doesn't make them go away, the same way I child covering their eyes doesn't make them invisible.

Re:OpenAI Feared "Optics" of what might appear on Hacker News by fzeroracer on Sunday September 27, 2026 @07:43AM (#49865806)
What do you think prevents you from being literally enslaved? The government is (or was) one avenue of your leverage against capital, when they own the government and they write the laws what protection do you have against being forced into service?

The complete inability of people to learn that what we have now was written in blood as their form of leverage is enough to drive a man insane.

Re:OpenAI Feared "Optics" of what might appear on Hacker News by OroPla on Sunday September 27, 2026 @10:23AM (#49866893)
Haven't we been told the Earth is overpopulated for years? Seems a fair bet that the future will involve a whole lot of war and famine.

We're already slowly walking away from globalism. Nationalism is being fawned. It's taking a lot of time, but I'd say by the end of the 2030s we'll be having WWIII at the latest.

And at that time LLMs will be better decision makers than humans, I'd wager. So for now I'm expecting AI stuff to get funded at the expense of everything else.

Re:OpenAI Feared "Optics" of what might appear on Hacker News by deniska on Sunday September 27, 2026 @06:12AM (#49865255)
What's the medium term plan though? Before we achieve singularity or UBI or whatever rapture analog this new religion is promising. Being employed is the primary way (and for most people is the only way) of getting housing, food, and other necessities meet.