Re:OpenAI is well positioned to fast-follow Jev
by firejake308 on Tuesday September 22, 2026 @01:45PM
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Counterargument: this works for quick prototyping, but for any serious business, you will eventually develop a benchmark/eval to track how well the general model is working, and once you have that dataset, you might as well train a specific model
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Re:OpenAI is well positioned to fast-follow Jev
by woah on Tuesday September 22, 2026 @02:13PM
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Jev's bet is that if it works well enough for random use cases that nobody complains, then management won't feel a need to develop a benchmark/eval, and they won't need to employ all those data science guys.
Re:OpenAI is well positioned to fast-follow Jev
by momojo on Tuesday September 22, 2026 @02:55PM
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I'd also add that they're hoping Jevon's Paradox also leads to a whole new segment of users who would have never reached for a classifier in the first place, given the barrier to entry.
Re:OpenAI is well positioned to fast-follow Jev
by woah on Tuesday September 22, 2026 @03:06PM
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And if you do get complaints or feedback on the classification, have a dev log into the user's account, tweak the Jev prompt a little until the issue goes away, and push it to production
Re:OpenAI is well positioned to fast-follow Jev
by what on Wednesday September 23, 2026 @12:27AM
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> tweak the Jev prompt a little until the issue goes away
But makes issues for someone (or everyone) else?
Re:OpenAI is well positioned to fast-follow Jev
by sanderjd on Tuesday September 22, 2026 @05:56PM
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Yes this is what I'm interested in. I think they might be right. I'm already finding myself thinking "well maybe a classifier would be useful here now that it's so easy to do...".
This probably just means that I could have been reaching for that tool more often already. But in practice I wasn't, and this has opened my eyes to the potential opportunities there.
Re:OpenAI is well positioned to fast-follow Jev
by ACCount39 on Tuesday September 22, 2026 @02:15PM
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Or not. And replace the generalist with the next generalist that gets you +15% on that benchmark for the same price, or gives you the same benchmark performance for half the price.
One advantage of using generalist models is that the generalists are improving - regardless of whether you're doing anything about it.
Re:OpenAI is well positioned to fast-follow Jev
by firejake308 on Thursday September 24, 2026 @01:45PM
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Yes, but the generalists are not routinely improving across all domains. The large labs are really focusing on agentic use, so I imagine that creative writing has deteriorated considering how distinctive Claude's writing style has become. Or I recently had an image-parsing task, and I was excited to try Qwen because I heard it had gotten a lot better at agentic tasks, but it failed my image-parsing benchmark.
Re:OpenAI is well positioned to fast-follow Jev
by ACCount39 on Thursday September 24, 2026 @07:54PM
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There are focus areas, but capabilities improve across all domains - some slower than others. "Agentic use" is in itself a very general thing - because many tasks benefit from being able to leverage adaptive model-driven workflows.
Creative writing and Claude - amusing that you say that, given that Anthropic just went and tried to unfuck it in Opus 5.5 specifically. It is an example of a capability no one typically cares about, yes. No money in creative writing. But even there, we had gains in newer models.