Because some people would still smoke in restaurants and airplanes if left to their own devices.

Technical and legal norms are implementation of social norms. “obviously everybody knows that you are supposed to do it that way” doesnt hold up well at court, or during an argument about any decision that costs big bucks.

There already are privacy laws that govern what can be filmed where. Why do we need a standard to pretty please ask some glasshole to respect the law if it's not too much of an inconvenience?

Wasn't there a "standard" that phones in south kora had to make a shutter noise when you took a picture because they had such a huge problem with men doing up the skirt photos of strangers?

Not sure why you think social norms are positive. Negative amoral behaviors can become norms. I'd argue the west has tons of amoral behavior that is normalized.

Not sure about the noise, but Japan did something likr it with a constant light when the device was recording. I believe it was combatting the same kind of issues though.

This. Absolutely this.

Explains a lot about why people vote for racist and right wing parties.

> and right wind parties

Now I get the racists, but you, quite literally, just boiled down all politics to: left wing parties = good; right wind parties = bad;

And, honestly, that’s gotta be the single most childish and naive take anyone could ever make about politics.

It’d be funny if it weren’t so sad that you think you’re “fighting big tech” when this is probably the most “I’m a social media junkie” take ever.

It's good to a first-order approximation. Haven't seen many cases where it fails. You do get right-wing parties pretending to be left-wing (never the reverse) though, like the German one that called itself "worker's socialist"

> It's good to a first-order approximation.

It… really is not.

People thinking in such binary terms (good vs evil) is exactly how we get to where we are today.

Nothing is as black and white as it seems to be. Especially politics.

You can't refute someone by just saying "nuh uh"

Trump is a massive disaster and you come out and say this ?

Haaaaaa.

What in the… what? Who said anything about Trump?

Dude. Seriously. I mean this in the least snarky and rude way possible: try to get off social media.

No.

Figures.

You created an identity only an hour ago. Did you just do this to tick me off on this?

Things happening does not mean it a social norm. It was never acceptable to take underskirt pictures in Japan. They also did not put the onus on women to wear special camera-disabling underwear.

Likewise, it's not acceptable to shove a camera to everyone's face, and it shouldn't be on people to opt-out of it.

Why do we need laws against stealing bikes?

(Yes, example chosen for its reputation for indifferent enforcement.)

You're getting this wrong. We don't need a standard to signal you don't want your bike to be stolen. The social expectation is that a bike can't be taken.

What the parent comment is suggesting is to invert the onus. "I can film you by default, unless you tell me not to".