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Re:What Happened to the Snowden Archive by ShinyLeftPad on Monday September 21, 2026 @01:04AM (#49783253)
For some people what Snowden did was the right thing. But settling in that particular country, makes it seem like he didn't do it from pureness of his heart. Maybe it was accidental but optics is optics.

He took the easy way out that is best for him individually, which is understandable but undermined future debate on the question

Re:What Happened to the Snowden Archive by modo_mario on Monday September 21, 2026 @03:30AM (#49784133)
>But settling in that particular country, makes it seem like he didn't do it from pureness of his heart.

It was not the original intent from what i understand.

But also, what country could protect him from the US other than Russia or China and wouldn't hand him over?

Re:What Happened to the Snowden Archive by ShinyLeftPad on Monday September 21, 2026 @04:07AM (#49784433)
> But also, what country could protect him from the US other than Russia or China and wouldn't hand him over?

As i wrote he probably took the easiest way out for himself. We are in agreement.

I just say what's better for himself is not necessarily better for the debate/cause. I don't know how that is controversial.

Re:What Happened to the Snowden Archive by mitxela on Monday September 21, 2026 @03:18AM (#49784052)
Where else would he go? Not many countries don't extradite you to the US for that. US enemies are your only options, and that fact is solely the fault of the US.
Re:What Happened to the Snowden Archive by ShinyLeftPad on Monday September 21, 2026 @04:08AM (#49784443)
Nepal UAE Belarus Mongolia Vietnam Laos Montenegro Indonesia
Re:What Happened to the Snowden Archive by marsmaps on Monday September 21, 2026 @07:43AM (#49786000)
the same indonesia in which the us government helped organise mass killings of hundreds of thousands of alleged left-wing political activists and voters? [0]

[0] https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/10/th... 'What the United States Did in Indonesia', The Atlantic

Re:What Happened to the Snowden Archive by ShinyLeftPad on Monday September 21, 2026 @10:49PM (#49796272)
Where else can we move the goalposts?
Re:What Happened to the Snowden Archive by sensanaty on Monday September 21, 2026 @04:51AM (#49784791)
> But settling in that particular country, makes it seem like he didn't do it from pureness of his heart. Maybe it was accidental but optics is optics.

Who the fuck cares if it's not from "pureness of his heart"? Why are we holding him to an infinitely higher standard than the bastards in the US gov't who were doing all the spying that Snowden uncovered?

Re:What Happened to the Snowden Archive by ShinyLeftPad on Monday September 21, 2026 @05:14AM (#49784941)
Because if we hold them to the same standard, in the eyes of the public neither is better than the other, then there is much less interest in the whole debate on this question.

guy leaks secret info about how US agencies surveil Americans and the world. in public's eye what they do is bad or illegal and what he did is at least illegal. it's a draw at best because many Americans consider national security important.

If he faces prosecution after leaking = guy fights authorities for good cause, has high ground, and it is a pretty controversial bipartisan case.

but he runs to a country that literally benefits from his report and then supports him by offering asylum (which it rarely does) and permanent residency and citizenship (even more rare) = support for him is less popular and more partisan

Re:What Happened to the Snowden Archive by fsflover on Monday September 21, 2026 @06:02AM (#49785244)
> he runs to a country that literally benefits from his report

He didn't, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49782465