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Re:Advice for US entrepreneurs who move to Europe by davidw on Wednesday December 26, 2012 @05:01AM (#4968759)
> Can't afford to treat your employees like humans? Want to give them big bonuses and then fire them the following year so they can't pay the mortgage on that house they put a deposit down on with that bonus? Don't want to shell out a bit of money on decent offices, and rather shove them in some little basement somewhere?

Isn't this something the market will mostly take care of, especially in tech where people can easily change jobs?

"Jobs for life" is a net negative in Italy: it keeps young people out of jobs, and it makes people hold on for dear life to jobs they hate and aren't great at just because they are Permanent Jobs. Far better to have a lot of flexibility, and state support for the unemployed, rather than turning employers into supporters of people they do not wish to employ.

Re:Advice for US entrepreneurs who move to Europe by Svip on Wednesday December 26, 2012 @05:06AM (#4968764)
I somewhat agree; you basically need a middle ground. It shouldn't be too easy to fire people, but neither should it be too hard. I think what we have in my country (.dk) hits that middle ground fairly decently.
Re:Advice for US entrepreneurs who move to Europe by danmaz74 on Wednesday December 26, 2012 @06:23AM (#4968888)
As a matter of fact, here in Italy Denmark is often cited as a very good example to follow regarding work regulations.
Re:Advice for US entrepreneurs who move to Europe by carlob on Wednesday December 26, 2012 @08:00AM (#4969099)
By Ichino who was until a few days ago part of a very small, yet vocal, minority of a center-left party and has now joined the ranks of the centrr-right.

His views are far far from being mainstream...

Re:Advice for US entrepreneurs who move to Europe by rmc on Wednesday December 26, 2012 @07:20AM (#4969017)
Isn't this something the market will mostly take care of

Only if there is a perfectly functioning market. Which there often isn't in many cases. Hence the laws.

Re:Advice for US entrepreneurs who move to Europe by davidw on Wednesday December 26, 2012 @04:10PM (#4970923)
I don't think I need to spell out that Italy's laws and government are probably not what most people think of when they think of "perfectly functioning", right?

Markets often work well even if they're not "perfectly functioning". Governments certainly solve other kinds of problems decently even if they are not "perfectly functioning" either. I'm pretty happy with the health care here in Italy, for instance.