Side note: I can't be sure, but I may have actually been the person who coined "Dumb TV" 12 years ago [0] - I've been unable to find an earlier usage.

[0] https://andybeaumont.com/post/dumb-tv/

That would be lovely. Unfortunately, to the best of my knowledge, nobody sells (for instance) high-quality 65"+ OLED non-"smart" TVs. "dumb TV" options are limited to older display technology.

Projectors are probably the only remaining exception here, and obviously don't work in all use cases.

Try https://www.aorus.com/monitors/AORUS-FO48U/Key-Features - yes, it's a bit too small for you.

Literally my current computer monitor, but no, does not work as a living room TV. (Also, would not recommend as a monitor; aggressive ABL and persistent messages about turning off for maintenance.)

When I said 55+ I was talking about the whole size category larger than that, including 65, 77, etc.

"Just a good large monitor" costs a fortune.

If anyone could recommend any dumb TV with good panels in EU, you're more than welcome.

If you don't need something much larger than 43 inches, and you are cool with wide monitors, there are a couple ones that seem good:

- Samsung 40 inch Odyssey G7 (G75F) Series WUHD Curved Gaming Monitor (https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Odyssey-Curved-Gaming-Monitor...) -- $699.99

- Acer Nitro 49 inch DQHD 5120x1440 Curved 120Hz Office Monitor (https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Nitro-Gaming-Monitor-UltraWide/d...) -- $549.99

- Acer DM431K A 43 inch Class 4K UHD LED Monitor - 16:9 (https://www.amazon.com/acer-DM431K-Class-UHD-Monitor/dp/B0F3...)-- $334.20

- LG 37G800A-B 37 inch Ultragear 4K UHD (3840 x 2160) Curved Gaming Monitor, 165Hz, 1ms (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0FS3LV3WG) -- $598

- INNOCN 40C1R Ultrawide Monitor 40 inch WQHD 3440 x 1440p 144Hz (https://www.amazon.com/INNOCN-Ultrawide-Monitor-FreeSync-Pre...) -- $479.99

I have a 50" Philips screen with no smarts. It's great.

I have a 43" Philips Ambilight (43PUS8510, 4K QLED). It's not a dumb TV per se, but you don't have to use any of the smart features, and - most important - you don't have to connect it to a network.

If you want a good panel, you're going to have to buy a smart TV.

Just don't ever let it connect to the internet.

... and that's the trick, isn't it. Have you ever tried going into an electrical store and buying a dumb TV any time recently?

See this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49596956

I bought a Sceptre a few years ago but it died pretty quickly (dead pixel strip on the screen). But the replacement 44" Insignia (Best Buy) that I replaced it with has been an awesome tv.

So yes, you can just walk into the Electronics Store (Best Buy) and purchase a dumb TV.

Best Buy no longer produces dumb Insignia TVs.

I don't understand why the best advice in this thread is getting downvoted. Even if you buy a smart TV and then disable the smarts, you're still teaching the TV companies that smart TVs sell.

> Buy a good "dumb" TV

Unfortunately, you can't have one without the other. The best, image quality -wise, TVs are all "smart".