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Re:Audacity 4.0 by lovedaddy on Thursday September 03, 2026 @08:55AM (#49549359)
Lost me at QT.
Re:Audacity 4.0 by dieortin on Thursday September 03, 2026 @09:06AM (#49549465)
Why do you care so much about the UI framework used?
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Re:Audacity 4.0 by rauli_ on Thursday September 03, 2026 @10:02AM (#49550059)
Or he just prefers GTK. I sure like it better than QT.
Re:Audacity 4.0 by LtWorf on Thursday September 03, 2026 @10:36AM (#49550469)
No person who has written software with both prefers GTK :D
Re:Audacity 4.0 by kvemkon on Thursday September 03, 2026 @10:46AM (#49550609)
I can still use and develop GTK2 software in Debian out-of-the-box, but not Qt3 or even Qt4.
Re:Audacity 4.0 by majewsky on Thursday September 03, 2026 @11:00AM (#49550912)
Yes, because GTK2 is so difficult to upgrade to new versions, whereas Qt4 to Qt5 usually only involved replacing a few identifiers (cannot speak to Qt6 since I don't do Qt anymore). That's why distros need to drag GTK2 along even though we are already at GTK4.
Re:Audacity 4.0 by kvemkon on Thursday September 03, 2026 @11:12AM (#49551256)
> so difficult to upgrade to new versions

Perhaps, because GTK developers insist, that GTK2, GTK3, GTK4 are different toolkits.

> Qt4 to Qt5 usually only involved ...

I'd start with Qt3 to Qt4.

Re:Audacity 4.0 by okanat on Thursday September 03, 2026 @10:16PM (#49559718)
Yeah let's start on a specific version that they overhauled the API since computers are getting new hardware features, god forbid a different DPI. And use that as a leverage point against a library that kept their API quite stable for the last 20 years!

Especially when comparing Qt against a library who couldn't keep its shit together for 5 years and is infamous for breaking all sorts of API and removing features.

Re:Audacity 4.0 by kvemkon on Friday September 04, 2026 @07:21AM (#49563093)
> since computers are getting new hardware features

It's not possible to move forwards fast anywhere.

> and removing features

Yeah, this is indeed very unfortunate. They claim the GTK core team is about 2 devs, so tiny that we're lucky the development goes further at all. Hard to understand considering Red Hat became part of IBM.

Re:Audacity 4.0 by gen2brain on Thursday September 03, 2026 @01:06PM (#49553264)
I work on the IUP fork, where I have and support the Qt driver, which works with both Qt5 and Qt6, and I only need a couple of checks to make it work on both. I often check if I broke the Qt5 build; nope, all good there, hard to break. For GTK3 and GTK4, those must be separate drivers; there's no way you can handle that with a couple of checks. Everything is different. That was possible to some extent and works with GTK2/GTK3 (single driver), but there are so many checks and workarounds there. Qt is so nice to work with.