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Re:GrapheneOS says Pixel 11 has MTE support after all by Cider9986 on Wednesday September 02, 2026 @11:54AM (#49538186)
You might not like their style of speech, at least they care about their users. Maybe Google uses nice flowery language that makes the reader feel nice—IDC—actions speak louder than words.

Stock Pixel is an awful experience. So many useless notifications, popups, ads, privacy not by default.

Company: "We care about your privacy" meanwhile 1400 corporations they share data with

GrapheneOS: "There's zero telemetry in GrapheneOS"

The more you read the more you realize they are nearly always correct.

Re:GrapheneOS says Pixel 11 has MTE support after all by gib444 on Wednesday September 02, 2026 @02:51PM (#49540683)
> at least they care about their users

No, users are secondary to the mission. If they happen to overlap, that's a happy coincidence. And caring for a user stops if Daniel has the slightest interpretation of their comments being an attack (i.e. any mild criticism or disagreement about direction)

They care about their mission and Daniel's stance first and foremost

I wouldn't be surprised if this comment is branded an attack

Re:GrapheneOS says Pixel 11 has MTE support after all by Cider9986 on Wednesday September 02, 2026 @03:09PM (#49540929)
> If they happen to overlap, that's a happy coincidence.

I can't know what the developers of any OS are actually thinking, but based their actions, GrapheneOS does more for their users than any other OS.

Therefore I assume that doing good things for users equals care for users. It's probably stupid to try to guess about care.

Re:GrapheneOS says Pixel 11 has MTE support after all by Cider9986 on Wednesday September 02, 2026 @10:17PM (#49545192)
Re:GrapheneOS says Pixel 11 has MTE support after all by gib444 on Thursday September 03, 2026 @03:20AM (#49546910)
Re:GrapheneOS says Pixel 11 has MTE support after all by yaro330 on Wednesday September 02, 2026 @05:39PM (#49542948)
> Stock Pixel is an awful experience. So many useless notifications, popups, ads, privacy not by default.

Huh? What pixel are you on? You only get notifications from stuff you install after the initial setup is done. And even then you can outright mute applications, completely.

Re:GrapheneOS says Pixel 11 has MTE support after all by Cider9986 on Wednesday September 02, 2026 @06:58PM (#49543745)
I was on stock recent pixel A17 for a few hours before flashing GrapheneOS. They took over the power button for Gemini, there's gemini in Messages, there's 50 apps you don't need. Yeah you can disable notifications but it was constantly giving tips and tricks and other bullshit. The OS feels super bloated compared to GrapheneOS.
Re:GrapheneOS says Pixel 11 has MTE support after all by yaro330 on Wednesday September 02, 2026 @07:09PM (#49543855)
I hate the power button change myself, but 1. It was turned into the Assistant button by default for many years now. 2. Can be switched back easily in settings.

> there's 50 apps you don't need Where are you getting your pixels? Mine came with all the essentials, I don't remember disabling anything in particular. No game demos, no preloaded meta cancer, just the normal google suite.

> The OS feels super bloated compared to GrapheneOS.

When was that ever not the case? When was a stock OS lighter than a custom flavour on any phone? You can't ship Android in the state that custom OS-es do, you won't pass the certification to get Google's goodies like OTA service and preinstalled play store. Don't quite get the Gemini argument either. You're buying a Gemini phone that touts AI everywhere on its promotional page. What do you expect?