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Re:The most surprising thing I've seen in 2009, courtesy of ... by ponchopepe on Wednesday February 25, 2009 @10:23PM (#495358)
> think of the implications of this alone

There are already non-webapp mouselog/keylog and replay applications. And besides, think of the implications of letting students be on the internet while they are writing essays.

Re:The most surprising thing I've seen in 2009, courtesy of ... by pg on Wednesday February 25, 2009 @10:55PM (#495401)
It's different when it's built into a generic, web-based editor. Imagine the difference between

a) telling students to install a keylogger, write an essay with it turned on, then submit the essay plus the logs, and then the teacher figuring out how to replay the logs, versus

b) telling students to write their essay at etherpad.com, they submit the url, teacher clicks on "replay."

As for the matter of students being online, that's going to have to get solved anyway, because all the apps are moving online.

Re:The most surprising thing I've seen in 2009, courtesy of ... by olefoo on Thursday February 26, 2009 @02:03AM (#495585)
> because all the apps are moving online.

I think that pendulum has almost reached the end of it's arc. There are a number of trends that are starting to pull in the opposite direction. From concerns about privacy and security to the proliferation of mobile computing, intermittent disconnection from the cloud has it's uses.

Tools like Google Gears and the continued blurring of the line between desktop applications and web applications mean that it's easy to build applications where being connected enhances the experience considerably, but the essential functions are still there even if the network goes away.

Re:The most surprising thing I've seen in 2009, courtesy of ... by axod on Thursday February 26, 2009 @04:08AM (#495669)
"There are a number of trends that are starting to pull in the opposite direction. From concerns about privacy and security"

Ironically I think it's the tech crowd/geeks (us) who are most resistant to webapps. We can see the privacy,security,reliability issues. The average users however, cannot. They're already embracing webapps.

Re:The most surprising thing I've seen in 2009, courtesy of ... by nostrademons on Thursday February 26, 2009 @05:04AM (#495702)
That might actually be evidence that the pendulum has almost reached the end of its arc. The tech crowd first embraced the web just as average users were embracing the PC. Windows 95 was the first really usable version of Windows, and it was also the year of Netscape's IPO. Mainstream users adopt last decade's technology just as the early adopters are finding a new playground.

The big question is what's next. I'm guessing it'll be mobile - the geeks are embracing it just as the mainstream is finally becoming comfortable with last decade's technology. But it's a bit too early to tell.

Re:The most surprising thing I've seen in 2009, courtesy of ... by pg on Thursday February 26, 2009 @04:30PM (#496464)
There are pendulums in fashion, but not, as far as I know, in technology. If you get pendulum-like behavior for a cycle, you have to assume it's a coincidence.
Re:The most surprising thing I've seen in 2009, courtesy of ... by songism on Thursday February 26, 2009 @12:12PM (#496087)
Cheating is a difficult and important problem, but I'm not sure this solution would be worth the inconvenience it would cause. If it only inconvenienced cheaters that would be fine -- but I think it would also cause some honest students and teachers a lot of trouble.

First, there's the simple privacy issue. If a professor told me to install a keylogger on my computer or if she told me to use etherpad to write an essay - either way I'd feel like my privacy was being violated.

Then there's the practical issue of how this system would affect writing ability. I personally do my best writing when I'm able to ignore the critic in my head and focus on the words. Being self-conscious about someone seeing all the stupid things I wrote along the way would make it much more difficult to get into this state of concentration.

Finally, there's the issue of making teacher's not only read two dozen boring essays but also watch replays of them being written. I personally think their time could be better spent.

Re:The most surprising thing I've seen in 2009, courtesy of ... by wheels on Thursday February 26, 2009 @01:28AM (#495557)
One thing that I'd find problematic with that is the inability to unplug to write. There are a lot of tasks (and as I recall you said the same in one of your essays) that I find I concentrate better with the internet unjacked.

...and even then I use WriteRoom, full screen green on black, no formatting options: http://www.hogbaysoftware.com/products/writeroom

Re:The most surprising thing I've seen in 2009, courtesy of ... by pg on Thursday February 26, 2009 @01:58AM (#495583)
It seems to work when disconnected, at least for a while. I'd guess that if working offline isn't already supported, it will be eventually.
Re:The most surprising thing I've seen in 2009, courtesy of ... by rfunduk on Thursday February 26, 2009 @01:15AM (#495551)
'Letting' students use the internet while they're writing essays? I think I'm missing something. I've never written an essay anywhere but on a computer with regular stuff around, including a web browser, etc.
Re:The most surprising thing I've seen in 2009, courtesy of ... by ivankirigin on Wednesday February 25, 2009 @11:00PM (#495408)
Teaching people to ignore the awesome parts of the internet is a fine skill to teach. It might be more valuable than the class you're writing for.
Re:The most surprising thing I've seen in 2009, courtesy of ... by alecst on Wednesday February 25, 2009 @10:42PM (#495384)
Can you provide links to some of these? I'd prefer a non-webapp version, since I have an intermittent internet connection.
Re:The most surprising thing I've seen in 2009, courtesy of ... by gleb on Wednesday February 25, 2009 @11:03PM (#495412)
/usr/bin/script

  script -t 2> script.demo.time script.demo
  xemacs -nw
  # M-x tetris
  #            ; play tetris now
  # C-x C-c    ; exit emacs
  exit
  # watch tetris being played:
  scriptreplay script.demo.time script.demo
script can create a "screencast" of any terminal session. This works pretty well, but probably is not the right solution for the education market pg is talking about :-)