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Re:Europe's summer drought is so extreme that desertificatio... by Dylan16807 on Sunday August 30, 2026 @07:46PM (#49503991)
I don't think meat is a very serious cancer risk, but:

> They count burgers

Do you think grinding up a piece of cow changes whether it's carcinogenic?

Re:Europe's summer drought is so extreme that desertificatio... by ddorian43 on Monday August 31, 2026 @02:33AM (#49506310)
No, ground meat is good, it's also cheap.

But in burgers you get bread, potatoes, seed oils, etc, which are all bad.

Example: its extremely hard & rare to become or remain fat in keto/carnivore.

Re:Europe's summer drought is so extreme that desertificatio... by aziaziazi on Monday August 31, 2026 @04:33AM (#49507122)
Heme iron and its link to oxidative stress has been re-evaluated over time.

Vegetables contain non-heme iron (Fe 3+), which is reduced to (Fe 2+) by the body on demand for absorption. In contrast, heme iron is already in its reduced state (Fe 2+). Because of its high bioavailability excess heme iron reacts with peroxides to produce highly reactive free radicals (Fenton reaction).

You can keep on potatoes safely.

Re:Europe's summer drought is so extreme that desertificatio... by ddorian43 on Monday August 31, 2026 @05:56AM (#49507805)
potatoes are high carb and no protein/fat, while foods should be high fat and low-to-medium protein (in keto diet that I do).
Re:Europe's summer drought is so extreme that desertificatio... by aziaziazi on Monday August 31, 2026 @06:11AM (#49507904)
I was responding to the carcinogenic aspect of meat, not to you personal diet. You can ignore it ("It is not") but it doesn't make Fenton reaction less real.
Re:Europe's summer drought is so extreme that desertificatio... by ddorian43 on Monday August 31, 2026 @06:40AM (#49508087)
The "longevity" aspect on both ends of the spectrum is very hard to really quantify to be honest.

On keto/carnivore I see immediate results (weeks) that span over multiple years.