I don't like you're being down voted, let's not give celebrities extra passes to be the assholes they can be. Elon being another prime example.

And I'll admit I watch his shows. The first two seasons of Clarkson's Farm were good TV. And with May and Hammond, he provided years of entertainment for car enthusiasts. None of which should excuse his boorish behavior off-screen.

Same here. Watch it, it's good entertainment, he's still an asshole that uses people. In fact, even in the current show, where he used that insult on one of his employees who someone said she looked like pre-transition Caleb — that's exactly the kind of thing he does and he found that funny so couldn't help himself but use it.

Punching Piers Morgan is not a sign of a character flaw.

Fair enough ;)

I don’t know, in a world where dictators bomb whoever they want, if punching someone is the worst thing you can do. People continue to follow and fangirl the politicians who enact violence, so why should one go on a crusade against a tv star who gets a little hands on?

You can be against more than one thing.

That's appeal to bigger problems fallacy.

What's the name of the fallacy in which one tediously shuts down all conversations by highlighting a named fallacy?

> shuts down

You're free to continue conversing.

> all conversations

Also a fallacy.

I wasn't conversing in the first place, I'm just bored of reading through exchanges where at some point someone says Aha! That's a fallacy! Got you, I win!

I know you weren’t. Which was my point: the conversation was not shut down. If pointing out someone’s manipulation is not OK to you, then you’re probably better off trying a different discussion board.

the phallusy fallacy