Re:Oceans hit highest temperature on record
by schubidubiduba on Monday August 24, 2026 @05:22PM
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Economics only make the country work when societal costs are not externalised by those that cause them. Which they have been, always, by fossil fuel companies.
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Re:Oceans hit highest temperature on record
by strictnein on Monday August 24, 2026 @06:18PM
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Most of the benefits of cheap energy are also externalized. Why do we focus on one but not the other?
Re:Oceans hit highest temperature on record
by Daishiman on Monday August 24, 2026 @07:50PM
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Because cheap fossil fuels's benefits will dissipate in two decades if we can move to green energy while the downsides project into whatever time remains of organized human civilization.
Re:Oceans hit highest temperature on record
by strictnein on Monday August 24, 2026 @07:59PM
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The benefits of fossil fuels will also be felt for centuries as well. It's what moved us into the comfortable lives we all enjoy today and lifted billions out of poverty.
The point isn't that they're wonderful, it's that they're treated as this thing that only a few have benefited from, when it's exactly the opposite.
Re:Oceans hit highest temperature on record
by Daishiman on Monday August 24, 2026 @10:52PM
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This can't be denied but the reality is that the fossil fuel industry has done everything in its power to delay the transition to other forms of energy for the past 50 years with great success and to their benefit. What could have been a successful transition to nuclear and solar would have implied maybe up to 30% of the emissions we have created thus far, which would have drastically changed the panorama of climate change where we wouldn't be in the position where we are today.
It's literally just a couple of decades of effort what separates the scenarios between mild climate change and the accelerated extinction of most of humanity and biomes. All so that Saudi Aramco and Chevron could get a bit more profit.
Re:Oceans hit highest temperature on record
by Fricken on Tuesday August 25, 2026 @06:28AM
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From the perspective of our evolutionary fitness function the most critical thing is to eliminate existential risk, and from the dawn of the industrial revolution to now all we've done is create them. Fossil Fuels allow us to keep 8 billion people alive at the same time temporarily, which is a reckless and irresponsible thing to do. If it isn't sustainable it's a joke.