Your first point makes sense, but the second part? The reason American health is so bad is that we are required to own and operate a vehicle in 99% of this country. That's what makes us obese - not having walkable environments other than in the largest cities. Having to drive to the nearest food which is almost always fast food. We are like this because we have been made slaves to our work and everything has been created to get us back to work faster.

Most of England outside London requires a car to buy anything... It's your massive portions of food and how surprisingly cheap it is compared to Europe. And maybe you have more grape drink fake shit than we do

I didn't say I have 0 interest in the job. I like the job. I said I don't care about the product, you seem to be conflating the two.

What kind of office did your friend visit? I don't think I've seen someone point and peck type for years.

Virginia, TBF it was years ago maybe they've all slimmed down

Let's say I have no interest in the job. I'm a for-profit operation; I'm in it for the money.

I work 8 hours a day for $X in pay. And it takes 2 hours in the car to get there, so it's really $X for 10 hours of my time plus some gasoline (unless I drive an electric).

Then Covid happens, and work from home becomes a real possibility. Now the deal is $X for 8 hours, not 10, because I don't have to drive to the office and back. I like that deal better, because I get two hours of my life back every day.

Now you want me to go back to the office every day, losing that two hours, for no more money? And the reason you give me is that I get to hang out with my coworkers? No, I don't like them that much.

> Now you want me to go back to the office every day, losing that two hours, for no more money?

If that's the choice probably not, but fuck me, just move or get a closer job if you hate the commute. Sounds like you live somewhere with no jobs, which is an adjacent issue, not every job is miles away.

I'm not saying it's not better than working in an office.... Clearly not having to smile, have clothes on, be polite to anyone are all benefits but a job isn't meant to fulfill you. If you had skills that were in demand youd be calling the shots, but as like me youre just a peon, you take what you can get. Wage slavery is shit full stop, why would anyone want to work for a living when there's this option called being rich and not having to lift a finger?

Complaining about the fucking commute just gets to me. Your grandparents probably worked twelve hour shifts six days a week and would get the sack for being legitimately ill, our slog doesn't even compare

I'm honestly confused by your comment, I have no idea what you are trying to say. (Is it sarcasm? Couldn't tell).