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Re:XWayland 26.1-rc1 Released Two Years After the Last Release by CursedSilicon on Wednesday August 19, 2026 @10:02PM (#49369607)
That's quite a disingenuous response to something I said with citations and no direct stated opinions on the person.

Be better

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Re:XWayland 26.1-rc1 Released Two Years After the Last Release by S-E-P on Thursday August 20, 2026 @12:21AM (#49370348)
> Be better

What year are we in?

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Re:XWayland 26.1-rc1 Released Two Years After the Last Release by CursedSilicon on Thursday August 20, 2026 @01:44AM (#49370795)
...Did we suddenly abandon bettering ourselves in 2026?
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Re:XWayland 26.1-rc1 Released Two Years After the Last Release by S-E-P on Thursday August 20, 2026 @03:22PM (#49378956)
The "be better" comment was used exclusively by the worst people i knew for 4 years straight. So for me, absolutely.

It's condescending, unnecessary, and it is a polarizing comment people who are miserable leave to annoy the rest of us.

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Re:XWayland 26.1-rc1 Released Two Years After the Last Release by CursedSilicon on Friday August 21, 2026 @01:14AM (#49384072)
Sorry that self-improvement hurts you so
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Re:XWayland 26.1-rc1 Released Two Years After the Last Release by S-E-P on Saturday August 22, 2026 @02:03AM (#49396997)
Sorry that you are incapable of seeing how others perceive you
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Re:XWayland 26.1-rc1 Released Two Years After the Last Release by bmacho on Thursday August 20, 2026 @03:10AM (#49371406)
Citations from people who want the whole platform die. (Actually they get paid for that, it's their dayjob to kill X11, but it can be their personal belief as well)
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Re:XWayland 26.1-rc1 Released Two Years After the Last Release by sertraline on Thursday August 20, 2026 @04:35AM (#49371955)
Yep, it is important to remember Metux was a sole guy supporting Xorg for many years while everybody else outright refused to touch the codebase. Then they blamed Metux for "breaking compatibility." While this sounds like a plausible reason, long time Linux users could recall that every major X release broke something in one way or another. It's just how it is, there is no way around it. They blamed Metux for doing something that cannot be avoided while maintaining the project, and claimed that Xorg must burn.

They also claimed features like namespaces would be impossible to implement in Xorg, which was later proven false as Xlibre brought XNamespaces -- as well as HDR and seat management. :)

I'm personally a Wayland user because I have AMD iGPU and use whatever comes by default, but I couldn't imagine Nvidia users having the same experience as me, even with their new drivers. I know it sucks because I used to own Nvidia. Removing Xorg while Nvidia users make up the majority is insane.

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Re:XWayland 26.1-rc1 Released Two Years After the Last Release by Timon3 on Thursday August 20, 2026 @07:55AM (#49373383)
IIRC they blamed Metux for unnecessarily breaking BC, e.g. renaming & moving around symbols when it wasn't necessary and didn't improve features or fix bugs.

When you're working on something this foundational, BC breaks should always have a good reason, and he repeatedly didn't give any. This causes churn for all downstream consumers.

> It's just how it is, there is no way around it.

There literally is a way around it: not doing unnecessary BC breaks.

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