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Re:The Mysterious Syndrome Destroying Endurance Athletes by raverbashing on Monday August 17, 2026 @07:27AM (#49329243)
"Mysterious"

"Overtraining syndrome"

I don't see why it's so mysterious, fatigue accumulates until something tips you over the limit

Re:The Mysterious Syndrome Destroying Endurance Athletes by goda90 on Monday August 17, 2026 @07:52AM (#49329405)
Do we know the biological mechanism to cause OTS, though? That would open up avenues for treatment and more precise prevention besides "rest more" (not that that's a bad preventative).
Re:The Mysterious Syndrome Destroying Endurance Athletes by raverbashing on Monday August 17, 2026 @08:29AM (#49329779)
Yes, a lot of them. Non exaustive list:

- bone microfractures

- nervous system depletion

- tendon "microlesions" (not so sure about this term though)

- immune system blunting due to stress

- raised cortisol levels

- (possible) nutritional deficiencies given the increased exertion (or just metabolic bottlenecks)

Re:The Mysterious Syndrome Destroying Endurance Athletes by bbayles on Monday August 17, 2026 @10:05AM (#49331167)
A lot of it is anorexia by another name. There is a subspecies that involves compulsive exercise. Doing lots of athletics without proper nourishment is a good recipe for low performance and injury.
Re:The Mysterious Syndrome Destroying Endurance Athletes by yfontana on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:21AM (#49332529)
That particular issue is known as RED-S: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_energy_deficiency_in_...

But over-training can happen even with sufficient nutrition (even if it is less likely, as nutrition is a major part of post-exercise recovery).

Re:The Mysterious Syndrome Destroying Endurance Athletes by bbayles on Monday August 17, 2026 @08:44PM (#49339717)
Also anorexia by another name in many cases, alas.
Re:The Mysterious Syndrome Destroying Endurance Athletes by vova_hn2 on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:06AM (#49332263)
> A lot of it is anorexia by another name.

Literally my first thought after reading this training log excerpt:

> 10/4/2012: I’m really trying to be conscious right now about losing some worthless snack weight… Need to be more diligent, take action, get fucking after it, and restore the body and the mind!

"worthless snack weight" sounds very similar to epithets that anorexic people often use.

Re:The Mysterious Syndrome Destroying Endurance Athletes by inigyou on Monday August 17, 2026 @08:01AM (#49329498)
What's fatigue? Is there a fatigue molecule?
Re:The Mysterious Syndrome Destroying Endurance Athletes by rzzzt on Monday August 17, 2026 @08:14AM (#49329631)
Lactic acid?
Re:The Mysterious Syndrome Destroying Endurance Athletes by perrygeo on Monday August 17, 2026 @10:27AM (#49331573)
Nope. Lactate and lactic acids are by-products of fatigue, not causal agents. Far from being toxic, elite athletes are even intentionally ingesting lactate as fuel these days.
Re:The Mysterious Syndrome Destroying Endurance Athletes by nradov on Monday August 17, 2026 @10:32AM (#49331666)
Correct. Related to that, accumulation of free hydrogen ions is associated with acute fatigue (although not necessarily related to chronic conditions like OTS). This is why some endurance athletes are now taking sodium bicarbonate supplements.
Re:The Mysterious Syndrome Destroying Endurance Athletes by raverbashing on Monday August 17, 2026 @08:29AM (#49329784)
I'd say ask ChatGPT because the list is loooong
Re:The Mysterious Syndrome Destroying Endurance Athletes by ButlerianJihad on Monday August 17, 2026 @02:54PM (#49335863)
Yeah, I mean these days, apparently it consists of melanin.