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Re:Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinkin... by AgentMasterRace on Monday August 17, 2026 @12:32AM (#49326578)
his 128gb Ram laptop is quite extreme
Re:Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinkin... by simonw on Monday August 17, 2026 @12:38AM (#49326604)
It should just about be usable in 32GB.
Re:Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinkin... by krzyk on Monday August 17, 2026 @01:58AM (#49326996)
On a consumer hardware it would be nicer. With no GPU/iGPU or a 6-8GB VRAM.
Re:Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinkin... by hnfong on Monday August 17, 2026 @02:50AM (#49327267)
It would be somewhat slow on a CPU only machine, but it still works.

Besides, Macbooks with 32GB RAM is consumer hardware, just maybe on the higher end.

Re:Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinkin... by krzyk on Monday August 17, 2026 @02:26PM (#49335487)
Well maybe, but a non-macos laptop is a bit more common.
Re:Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinkin... by npodbielski on Monday August 17, 2026 @12:57AM (#49326694)
It is. I am running it on R9700
Re:Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinkin... by bakraman on Monday August 17, 2026 @03:03AM (#49327371)
RAM is never the issue, it's always the compute power
Re:Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinkin... by spider-mario on Monday August 17, 2026 @03:28AM (#49327488)
RAM is not “never” the issue. My iPhone and MacBook Air could both run larger and more capable models if they had more RAM.
Re:Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinkin... by tuetuopay on Monday August 17, 2026 @03:41AM (#49327577)
Quite the opposite, RAM is always the issue. More specifically, high bandwidth RAM.
Re:Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinkin... by geek_at on Monday August 17, 2026 @03:07AM (#49327385)
and memory bandwidth
Re:Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinkin... by mhaberl on Monday August 17, 2026 @03:43AM (#49327590)
what??? not true!

for inference the compute is the last thing we need more of.

memory bandwidth is the numebr one blocker, after that the inefficiencies that where introduced with MoE models (and all new large models are made that way)

Here is a quick read: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49324600

Re:Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinkin... by CamouflagedKiwi on Monday August 17, 2026 @04:35AM (#49327915)
It's absolutely not for these models. There are plenty of consumer GPUs out there with 8 or 12GB VRAM - they are comparatively very fast at inference but just aren't big enough to run lots of the models you want. Also context management is a massive pain.
Re:Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinkin... by DanielHB on Monday August 17, 2026 @05:46AM (#49328492)
I run qwen3.5-9B on an RTX 3080 with 10GB of vram. It runs at ~77tk/s with around 50k context size.

As soon as I switch to a model that doesn't fully fit into vram it tanks to <10tk/s which makes it unusable for me for most tasks.

Re:Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinkin... by piva00 on Monday August 17, 2026 @05:12AM (#49328214)
RAM bandwidth is the main issue for running LLMs on consumer hardware...
Re:Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinkin... by aizk on Monday August 17, 2026 @12:39AM (#49326611)
Give it 6 months, the capabilities will increase even further.