Its always been possible to trade long term productivity for short term gains with technical debt. This is why the bar I'm interested in is long term projects, which have proven to have long term success, instead of a small disposable project where the code quality doesn't matter

Difference is whether it's a false dichotomy now, because models like Fable can write better code than most devs I know.

Then why isn't it showing up in open source at all? The people who file PRs are just regular average devs, but the quality of LLM PRs seems to be universally crap in comparison

It is: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49237476

> now taking us months where it'd have taken weeks...

So 0<whatever<1

Nah, the GP's claim is weeks for each feature, versus a few months in total. On a greenfield project.

Weeks for each feature in a greenfield project... Yeah, LLMs make unworking code way faster than that.

Feature vs full project timeline