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Re:Zigbee vs. Matter over Thread:Understanding IoT Protocol ... by wao0uuno on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @02:07AM (#49179143)
My entire “smart” home setup is built with Matter over Thread. It’s fully local. No internet access required. With Home Assistant onboarding can be done without a smartphone now. Devices without official certification work but probably only in Home Assistant.
Re:Zigbee vs. Matter over Thread:Understanding IoT Protocol ... by iamacyborg on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @02:15AM (#49179191)
My Matter over Thread stuff keeps occasionally falling over in Home Assistant and becoming unavailable, probably a router issue as I’m using a homepod mini but still endlessly frustrating.
Re:Zigbee vs. Matter over Thread:Understanding IoT Protocol ... by wao0uuno on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @02:28AM (#49179273)
I’m using ZBT-2 with HAOS on RPi 4 4GB. It’s rock solid in a crowded apartment complex. Devices are 90% IKEA and 10% Aqara. Definitely try that antenna and don’t connect additional border routers. Let HA own everything.
Re:Zigbee vs. Matter over Thread:Understanding IoT Protocol ... by iamacyborg on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @03:49AM (#49179787)
My whole setup is, suboptimal, to put it delicately. It’s just running on a NUC that’s crammed inside my AV cabinet, antennas would be crammed in there as well. I mostly buy zigbee stuff but it’s hard to ignore how cheap the Ikea Matter over Thread kit is.
Re:Zigbee vs. Matter over Thread:Understanding IoT Protocol ... by torginus on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @02:36AM (#49179307)
Dunno, personally I have found HA + MoT to be strictly worse than Z2M. It's the classic case of the Douglas Adams quote:

“The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair."

HA MoT has a simplified UI, that hides hellish complexity underneath, that's held together by loose pieces of gum, which means its difficult to troubleshoot. HA has a rather laissez faire policy to stability, for example, they rolled out an update just recently that made it impossible to add new devices.

I just readded yday evening my Ikea temp sensors as they mysteriously stopped working for no reason. Why? Who knows, but you can't ship stuff like this to a non-technical audience, especially if they rely on it. I had it connected as the temp sensor of my AC, and was surprised to find the AC was not working, thats how I found out it suicided itself.

Re:Zigbee vs. Matter over Thread:Understanding IoT Protocol ... by wao0uuno on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @03:02AM (#49179500)
I never had any problems with Thread that couldn’t be fixed by pulling batteries from a crashed Ikea device and I have very little interest in how the protocol works.

Automatic updates in Home Assistant are disabled by default for a reason. It’s not an ultra polished, safe corporate environment for non technical wives and children.

Which sensor? Battery powered temp/humidity sensor or USB-C powered air quality monitor? I’m asking because the battery powered one is known to be bad. They disconnect and refuse to connect again until their batteries are pulled for ~10 seconds. It’s a device problem, not Thread problem.