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Re:DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731 Intelligence, Performance and Pric... by ComputerPerson on Friday July 31, 2026 @09:55AM (#49123190)
Is the difference between this and a frontier model that the scripture is guaranteed to be real?

I'm on a team that develops a Bible study app, and we're all relatively content with how the basic models converse regarding scripture. Even as far back as GPT-4 was excellent. They occasionally have minor hallucinations (a dealbreaker for a production app), but they do an excellent job with theology and Bible scholarship, given reasonable guardrails.

I'll admit I'm coming from the perspective of "should we be implementing this?" It seems, on the surface, that a strong embedding-based verse retrieval covers the bases at a microfraction of the cost.

If you're interested, check out the development server where we're working on this. You navigate to the search (magnifying glass) and then hit "Meaning". Sorry for the confusing route; we're still deciding on back-end details and haven't focused on the front yet.

[1] https://ai.stepbible.org

Re:DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731 Intelligence, Performance and Pric... by willchis on Friday July 31, 2026 @10:11AM (#49123380)
I hope the irony of being concerned about hallucinations in a bible study app is not lost on you or others reading this!
Re:DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731 Intelligence, Performance and Pric... by swingboy on Saturday August 01, 2026 @06:06AM (#49132922)
Sir, you dropped your fedora.
Re:DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731 Intelligence, Performance and Pric... by jmathai on Friday July 31, 2026 @10:31AM (#49123656)
Philosophically, I don’t believe we should outsource the accuracy of scripture to any single entity (let alone a for profit secular one).

So it’s less about model choice and more about governance of scripture.

I will check out the link you sent for sure!

Re:DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731 Intelligence, Performance and Pric... by ComputerPerson on Friday July 31, 2026 @10:34AM (#49123684)
I was under the impression you were getting BOOK.CHAPTER.VERSE references from the model and then sourcing them from a ground truth db.

Anyways, impressive app! We haven't tackled such an ambitious project just for it being daunting.

Re:DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731 Intelligence, Performance and Pric... by irthomasthomas on Friday July 31, 2026 @11:50AM (#49124617)
It can still generate a wrong reference and select the wrong verse.
Re:DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731 Intelligence, Performance and Pric... by jmathai on Friday July 31, 2026 @12:37PM (#49125408)
That’s okay, IMO. Ultimately it’s the readers responsibility to apply their own intelligence. But the app should not misquote scripture itself.
Re:DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731 Intelligence, Performance and Pric... by jmathai on Saturday August 01, 2026 @08:10AM (#49133722)
Took a look at StepBible. Looks really cool. My email is in my profile if you wanted to connect.
Re:DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731 Intelligence, Performance and Pric... by kfse on Friday July 31, 2026 @10:23AM (#49123537)
All models hallucinate. Everything in production with a model will too. It is not a "deal breaker"
Re:DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731 Intelligence, Performance and Pric... by vmt-man on Friday July 31, 2026 @10:09AM (#49123349)
> Is the difference between this and a frontier model that the scripture is guaranteed to be real?

flash is suitable only for a toy apps, not for production environments :)