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Re:The Quiet Wikideath of BBS History by luckystarr on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @10:35AM (#4910517)
Why care to participate if contributions can be deleted at any moment?

In WikiMedia's "Movement Strategic Plan Summary" they have an interesting graph to show.

http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Movement_Strate...

So something must have happend around '07. What was it?

Re:The Quiet Wikideath of BBS History by jacques_chester on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @10:49AM (#4910618)
There are a number of things at play.

1. The rise of deletionism.

2. The tendency for many pages to attract zealous guardians. I've had spelling errors immediately backed out. I expect that 99.9% of potential contributors quit at this point and never return.

3. Diminishing subjects to cover. All the "major" ones are done, all that's left are the billions of pieces of harmless trivia that deletionists decide, apparently at random, to do away with.

Note also that half the editors are under 22. This is probably why you can find vast articles on Pokemon and deletionists go around flushing articles on anything that happened before 1990.

Re:The Quiet Wikideath of BBS History by gwern on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @11:09AM (#4910750)
> Note also that half the editors are under 22. This is probably why you can find vast articles on Pokemon and deletionists go around flushing articles on anything that happened before 1990.

Do you have any idea what you're talking about? Vast articles? No, the Pokemon articles were purged pretty early on; look at lists like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_characters or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_%28202%E2... which devote a few lines to main characters or major pokemon, and just compare some with their respective entries in Bulbapedia (where the Pokemon Wikipedia editors ultimately fled to escape the deletionists, much like the Star Wars editors earlier fled en masse to Wookieepedia).

Even the Pikachu article has been eviscerated: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pikachu (Hope you enjoy a list of awards and mentions... It's 'out of universe' material donchaknow)

Re:The Quiet Wikideath of BBS History by jacques_chester on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @11:12AM (#4910767)
Good point, they reduced it to only thousands upon thousands of words enumerating every single character that has ever appeared.

Phew, what a useful compromise. Good work team. High fives all round.

Re:The Quiet Wikideath of BBS History by Dylan16807 on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @12:43PM (#4911391)
Of all the things to complain about, you're going after the fact that wikipedia has 15 printed pages about important characters in a cartoon with over 750 episodes? This is a list of important, plot-affecting characters; you're just failing to appreciate the sheer scale.

At the very least complain about the species list if you want something ill-fitting for an encyclopedia.

Re:The Quiet Wikideath of BBS History by jacques_chester on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @09:03PM (#4913743)
The point is that "notability" seems to be a 1-to-1 proxy for "the popular culture and nostalgic recollections of < 25 year olds".

Which is ... daft.

Re:The Quiet Wikideath of BBS History by Dylan16807 on Thursday December 13, 2012 @03:49AM (#4914923)
That's a fine point but a bad example. We're looking at a couple dozen words about characters per hour of footage.
Re:The Quiet Wikideath of BBS History by gojomo on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @12:18PM (#4911238)
In the case of fictional universes, Wikipedia's deletionism is Wikia's business model.
Re:The Quiet Wikideath of BBS History by gwern on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @11:05AM (#4910718)
2007 was around the Seigenthaler incident and the kneejerk panic reactions by WMF people and administrators, like Wales unilaterally turning off anonymous page creation and lying to everyone about it being an experiment; I've personally always dated the rise of the deletionists and shifts of burden of proof to around this period.