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Re:Handbook.md shows that long policy documents do not relia... by edot on Wednesday July 29, 2026 @04:39PM (#49102767)
14 seconds per token? Not tokens per second. Seconds per token? That’s nowhere near the cusp!
Re:Handbook.md shows that long policy documents do not relia... by dotancohen on Wednesday July 29, 2026 @07:18PM (#49104339)
It's need it to be an order of magnitude cheaper, but for some queries ("What to discuss at tomorrow's meeting") I can wait 12+ hours.
Re:Handbook.md shows that long policy documents do not relia... by throw10920 on Wednesday July 29, 2026 @09:47PM (#49105275)
I'd rather just use my actual human brain to compute the answer at that point. I don't see the value at throughput that is this low.
Re:Handbook.md shows that long policy documents do not relia... by dotancohen on Thursday July 30, 2026 @04:35AM (#49107395)
I'd rather not be thinking about tomorrow's meeting all night! Just trust "the robot has got this"... and scramble in the morning when the robot has failed. But at least I got a good night's sleep!
Re:Handbook.md shows that long policy documents do not relia... by antonvs on Wednesday July 29, 2026 @07:19PM (#49104344)
At that rate, it would take me a mere 15 days to generate the number of tokens I typically use in a day.

"Yes, I'm using AI to speed up development. I'll submit that PR in two weeks time!"

Re:Handbook.md shows that long policy documents do not relia... by adrian_b on Thursday July 30, 2026 @04:07AM (#49107224)
That speed is significantly lower that what can be attained with streaming from SSDs.

Not only in big desktops, but even in most recent mini-PCs, it is possible to read concurrently from one PCIe 5.0 SSDs and one PCIe 4.0 SSD, at a total sustained reading throughput of around 20 GB/s.

With an optimized inference implementation, it should be possible to overlap completely the computations with streaming weights from SSDs.

This should improve the inference speed to around at least 1 token per second, on a cheap computer, under $2000 even at the current super-inflated prices.

There are enough tasks where this would be useful. Obviously one should use for most tasks a fast small LLM and use the big one only when this actually saves time.