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Re:“We have information that Moonshot distilled Fable for th... by lovich on Thursday July 23, 2026 @11:07AM (#49022860)
They are thieves the same way Anthropic or OpenAI are thieves. Either it’s fair use to learn from this data or not.

If what Anthropic/OpenAi did for training is theft then the Chinese models also are a form of theft. If they didn’t steal then I don’t think the Chinese firms did either.

Re:“We have information that Moonshot distilled Fable for th... by wasfgwp on Friday July 24, 2026 @05:36AM (#49033155)
Following that logic anyone using an LLM trained on “stolen” data for any purpose whatsoever is engaging in theft. Assuming the Chinese companies are obtaining their traces legitimately (which is a different question) what they are engaging in is morally no different than what the overwhelming majority of people on this site are regularly doing.