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Re:Who Is America's Homer? by cgyvbunji on Monday July 20, 2026 @12:11AM (#48974253)
> I think it is somewhat weird that nobody put Twain in

"He [Mark Twain] also said 'There once was a man named [N-word] Jim,' so not everything he said was perfectly amazing" -Louis CK

Re:Who Is America's Homer? by assimpleaspossi on Monday July 20, 2026 @12:32AM (#48974361)
And you're going to quote a guy accused of sexual misconduct? CK will never be a Homer. But bringing that quote up from a piece of literature, not just something he said, is being ridiculous.
Re:Who Is America's Homer? by somenameforme on Monday July 20, 2026 @12:49AM (#48974475)
It's also amazingly ignorant. The entire point of Jim in Huck Finn is the extreme irony between superficiality and reality. Everybody in Huck Finn is horrible, including Huck himself, yet they mostly all paint themselves as the most honorable and just of people - and in most cases probably believe it.

The one exception is Jim who everybody just casually dismisses, yet he's the one truly good hearted and upstanding character in the entire book. It's a lesson about the difference between what people pretend to be like, and what they are really like. Which makes the critiques of the book, often focusing on pejoratives towards Jim, just so unbelievably ironic. It's the deterioration of thinking in society.

Re:Who Is America's Homer? by cgyvbunji on Monday July 20, 2026 @01:10AM (#48974569)
> The one exception is Jim who everybody just casually dismisses, yet he's the one truly good hearted and upstanding character in the entire book

Sure but you have to read the book first to know that, whereas the reader gets slapped in the face right away with the racial slur while reading the book for the first time, which is why some schools don't read Twain. This thread is about why people might not pick him to be the "America's Homer", I'm not trying to say anything more than that.

Re:Who Is America's Homer? by graemep on Monday July 20, 2026 @08:01AM (#48977569)
If you are not going to quote people accused of (or even known to be guilty of) sexual misconduct that covers a lot of authors and creative people in general.
Re:Who Is America's Homer? by assimpleaspossi on Monday July 20, 2026 @04:05PM (#48984193)
The point was that the quote being used to falsely denigrate Twain is from an accused predator himself made worse by the fact that it's not anything Twain said which is why someone here also said it showed ignorance.
Re:Who Is America's Homer? by cgyvbunji on Monday July 20, 2026 @04:09PM (#48984241)
Distinction without a difference.
Re:Who Is America's Homer? by bryanrasmussen on Monday July 20, 2026 @12:47AM (#48974462)
https://medium.com/luminasticity/huck-finn-one-of-the-greate...

"In the world of the book Huck Finn is not respected, although he comes close at times to it, contravening all the values of a society that should be considered corrupt by ours.

And in our world Huck Finn is not respectable and must be continually defended to keep from being totally thrown out of the literary society, because contravening the deep values of his corrupt society, he does have some of the surface mannerisms."