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Re:Qwen3.8 is launching and going open-weight soon by samxli on Sunday July 19, 2026 @05:40PM (#48971917)
lol the pelican benchmark is basically the only review process I trust at this point. kinda wild that alibaba of all companies is making it hard to give them money tho, you'd think they'd want prominent devs testing their stuff.

openrouter usually picks these up pretty fast, hopefully it shows up there soon. You can also just download the qwen app and do this in the chat interface using their MCP tools for local dev.

Re:Qwen3.8 is launching and going open-weight soon by timClicks on Sunday July 19, 2026 @07:19PM (#48972610)
It's an interesting example of the metric becoming a target. Simon started drawing pelicans because it wasn't something that existed before.
Re:Qwen3.8 is launching and going open-weight soon by gcr on Sunday July 19, 2026 @10:38PM (#48973809)
There’s a small albeit nonzero chance that frontier labs want Simon to stop using the pelican thing so they can draw attention to better benchmarks
Re:Qwen3.8 is launching and going open-weight soon by simonw on Monday July 20, 2026 @01:34PM (#48982042)
As far as I can tell they all still understand that it's a joke.
Re:Qwen3.8 is launching and going open-weight soon by nextaccountic on Sunday July 19, 2026 @10:45PM (#48973849)
> kinda wild that alibaba of all companies is making it hard to give them money tho

Okay so this is entirely off topic but, are there any options to subscribe to these companies without having a credit card? (I am Brazilian if this makes a difference)

It's kind of wild that a Chinese AI lab will require something like.. a credit card with visa or mastercard label, and very little else.

Re:Qwen3.8 is launching and going open-weight soon by samxli on Thursday July 23, 2026 @06:25PM (#49028879)
I’d imagine credit card is the easiest way and globally more universal. Deepseek for example allows for credit cards but also PayPal. You can also pay with Alipay and WeChat pay if you want to use RMB.