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Re:SpaceX stock erases all its gains and slides below IPO pr... by pfisherman on Thursday July 16, 2026 @08:43AM (#48933686)
My understanding is that an ideally priced IPO should not move much from the opening price in the near term. If it pops it means they left money on the table. If it drops, then I am not sure what the implication is exactly?

Now I think SpaceX is massively overhyped, but is the share price returning to IPO opening not just a sign that the banks accurately estimated something?

Re:SpaceX stock erases all its gains and slides below IPO pr... by lesuorac on Thursday July 16, 2026 @09:05AM (#48933950)
In general terms you want the stock to pop.

Your bank will get a ton of orders from institutional investors of how many shares they want at a given price. You will have a preference as to which investors you want on your cap table. Almost all of those investors value your stock less than the "pop price" (which includes the investors you want on your cap table). So you'll need to target the IPO below the "pop price" so you get them on your cap table.

You're probably picking investors based on how likely they'll let you stay on the board / CEO and if you think they're just going to dump the stock during the IPO (which would be bad for it's price).

So (unlike the SpaceX IPO) you're going to sell relatively little shares to retail who will buy at any price which during the opening days will cause it to spike as the demand (in nominal dollars) per share is beyond the IPO price target.

> but is the share price returning to IPO opening not just a sign that the banks accurately estimated something?

Sure they estimated something. But there's a ton of different things that can be estimated.

Re:SpaceX stock erases all its gains and slides below IPO pr... by philipallstar on Thursday July 16, 2026 @08:54AM (#48933816)
Many IPOs slide below the initial price. This isn't a SpaceX thing.
Re:SpaceX stock erases all its gains and slides below IPO pr... by saltwatercowboy on Thursday July 16, 2026 @09:05AM (#48933962)
If the NASDAQ changes their inclusion rules to court SpaceX... it sort of does become all about SpaceX.
Re:SpaceX stock erases all its gains and slides below IPO pr... by lapcat on Thursday July 16, 2026 @08:48AM (#48933751)
> an ideally priced IPO

Ideally priced from the perspective of pre-IPO investors.

This seems like an argument for outside investors not to buy IPO stock.

Re:SpaceX stock erases all its gains and slides below IPO pr... by budsniffer952 on Thursday July 16, 2026 @09:01AM (#48933903)
There is no should or should not.

Look at the financials and the price, and you as an individual get to determine if it's worth buying (or selling).

Re:SpaceX stock erases all its gains and slides below IPO pr... by RIMR on Thursday July 16, 2026 @09:05AM (#48933959)
What do you mean by this? The person you responded to never used the words "should" or "should not", and then you basically repeated what they said using more neutral words...

What is so controversial about saying that SpaceX seems overpriced?

Re:SpaceX stock erases all its gains and slides below IPO pr... by yrjrjjrjjtjjr on Thursday July 16, 2026 @09:17AM (#48934116)
His point is that sellers can do whatever suits their interests best, they don't have a duty to pick a fair price. And that it's on the buyer to decide whether to accept it or reject the price.
Re:SpaceX stock erases all its gains and slides below IPO pr... by lapcat on Thursday July 16, 2026 @09:24AM (#48934210)
Duh? That point was actually implied by my initial comment.

Nobody said anything about fairness or duty.

My point was that if the seller is trying to maximize its self-interest by maximizing the IPO price, leaving no room for growth after IPO, then buyers probably want to take a pass at that price.

Re:SpaceX stock erases all its gains and slides below IPO pr... by ubermonkey on Thursday July 16, 2026 @08:48AM (#48933737)
>If it drops, then I am not sure what the implication is exactly?

Surely you understand it's inverse of an IPO that jumps after intro, right?

SpaceX is not seen by investors as worth its price. This is because it is not.

Re:SpaceX stock erases all its gains and slides below IPO pr... by SpicyLemonZest on Thursday July 16, 2026 @09:11AM (#48934032)
All of the IPO banks have a public position that SpaceX is actually undervalued and should be at least $200. (Are they telling the truth? lol.)
Re:SpaceX stock erases all its gains and slides below IPO pr... by marricks on Thursday July 16, 2026 @05:17PM (#48940367)
> the share price returning to IPO opening not just a sign that the banks accurately estimated something

I mean who knows where it will end up by the end of the year. Meme-stock-hype train could continue or it could reasonably crash far further back down to earth.

Re:SpaceX stock erases all its gains and slides below IPO pr... by make3 on Friday July 17, 2026 @08:39PM (#48953918)
Not if it's going to keep dropping, which I think is fair to assume as people wake up to the fundamentals after the hype is done (not financial advice)