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Re:The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break i... by bix6 on Thursday July 09, 2026 @12:57PM (#48848966)
I am so curious about this. There are a lot of 3D printed drone startups now. But nobody really seems to be thinking about the electronics sourcing. Great you can print a drone shell wherever but what happens if China turns off exports?
Re:The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break i... by galangalalgol on Thursday July 09, 2026 @03:22PM (#48851107)
Ukraine seems pretty paranoid about this, having backup suppliers for parts. Looks like they take efficiency hits and build more complicated things out of multiple discrete chips that would normally be ontegrated commercially so that they can go to suppliers in Oceania, eurasia, or eastasia depending on who is being helpful.
Re:The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break i... by cyberax on Thursday July 09, 2026 @04:28PM (#48851936)
Which supplies? Batteries are produced everywhere. Power electronics are dime-a-dozen. IMUs, GPS chips, and CPUs are produced in Taiwan anyway.
Re:The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break i... by klooney on Thursday July 09, 2026 @06:15PM (#48853086)
If China/Taiwan kicks off, you're not getting new parts from Taiwan
Re:The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break i... by cyberax on Thursday July 09, 2026 @06:25PM (#48853188)
The US can produce these chips. South Korea can also do that.
Re:The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break i... by ddtaylor on Thursday July 09, 2026 @07:40PM (#48853924)
The US cannot produce most of what that TSMC can can. And those US factories aren't rolling yet either.
Re:The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break i... by xp84 on Thursday July 09, 2026 @08:19PM (#48854245)
TSMC is absolutely critical for 'frontier' silicon but:

1. In a China/Taiwan conflict, China's not getting TSMC output either - Bear in mind that I doubt China would ever want to destroy TSMC though, so I'm talking about a naval blockade rather than artillery destroying the fabs.

2. Although SOTA chips are off the table, we could get older process node stuff. We could still build say, 2015-era chips. We had great missiles in 2015.

Re:The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break i... by troupo on Friday July 10, 2026 @06:59AM (#48858285)
> In a China/Taiwan conflict, China's not getting TSMC output either

China has enough domestic electronics production to not care. Also, in the event of a war they would probably stockpile necessary parts.

> we could get older process node stuff. We could still build say, 2015-era chips.

If the factories producing those chips are still operational. Otherwise you end up in the exact same situation as Russia, for example. They have some barely functioning old factories producing extremely outdated chips on foreign equipment.

Re:The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break i... by cyberax on Thursday July 09, 2026 @09:50PM (#48854819)
Most drones don't use anything cutting-edge. Even 15-year-old chips are more than enough.
Re:The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break i... by nswango on Friday July 10, 2026 @07:45AM (#48858616)
You don't think neural networks are going to be a factor in drone wars? How far out do you think this prediction will hold?
Re:The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break i... by cyberax on Friday July 10, 2026 @03:39PM (#48864266)
Most drones are controlled by humans, so they don't need neural networks. Larger drones still don't use anything too advanced, as specialized neural networks actually don't need beefy hardware.

Maybe this will change in future, but the US still has enough semiconductor manufacturing capacity to produce a few million chips for drones.

Re:The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break i... by nswango on Friday July 10, 2026 @07:43AM (#48858600)
You know that when there were COVID related supply chain disruptions to microchips coming out of Taiwan, Europe and the US actually found it impossible to make the right number of cars?