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Re:What Do We Know About the Microplastics Inside Us? by Xirdus on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @04:46PM (#48837201)
Evidence can be strong or weak. Every positive study result is evidence of presence, usually strong evidence. Every negative study result is evidence of absence, usually very weak evidence.
Re:What Do We Know About the Microplastics Inside Us? by zug_zug on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @07:39PM (#48838897)
That's not right, a negative study often still can give evidence that something is true, but it just didn't meet the p=.05 threshold.
Re:What Do We Know About the Microplastics Inside Us? by Xirdus on Thursday July 09, 2026 @10:00AM (#48846005)
p<=0.05 is so easy to achieve for actual positive results (just increase sample size) that I don't think it's productive to treat any result with p>0.05 as positive evidence for any purpose other than deciding to rerun the study with a bigger sample size.
Re:What Do We Know About the Microplastics Inside Us? by zug_zug on Saturday July 11, 2026 @09:54PM (#48877587)
That's not true at all, that's a weird generalization that's patently false.

Take things like even certain physics propositions (e.g. discovering new particles) -- can take billions of dollars building a new reactor and years of experiments to find a result.

Anything medical or psychological also can take this result. If a chemical reduces your iq by 5 points over 10 years, it might not be able to do a study that finds that result on an academic budget.

Re:What Do We Know About the Microplastics Inside Us? by rTX5CMRXIfFG on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @06:19PM (#48838138)
And yet, people can be extremely vigilant about a positive correlation when it doesn’t fit their personal agenda, going as far as questioning methodology in even the least pragmatic ways possible; or, become accepting of the absence of evidence as evidence of absence when weak/no correlation is convenient to their own biases.
Re:What Do We Know About the Microplastics Inside Us? by Xirdus on Thursday July 09, 2026 @09:33AM (#48845582)
I'd say it's very sensible to assume absence up front before there's convincing evidence of presence. Sure, personal biases influence our evidence thresholds a lot, and often people demand unfair rigor that cannot be practically met. But the opposite is also true - sometimes people will believe in presence with zero evidence if they like it enough. The latter is far, far more dangerous than the former.
Re:What Do We Know About the Microplastics Inside Us? by rTX5CMRXIfFG on Thursday July 09, 2026 @04:48PM (#48852166)
It’s one thing to believe in presence with zero evidence, and another to _withhold_ judgment when there’s zero evidence. I think you may be conflating the two.

Then again, perhaps we are simply two different types of people. I don’t believe that a complex system can be expected to stay the same when you introduce a new factor into it, while you prefer to adjust much later when effects appear or when evidence achieves total infallibility up to the academic level. I am risk-averse, you like taking it; I’d rather prevent, you’d rather cure. Stating that the former is “far, far more dangerous” is just begging the question though.