Re:China sentences official to death for taking $325M in bribes
by nixon_why69 on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @06:21AM
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I'm saying all of the people still exist and their lives were never in danger. There were some dozens executed for actual terror/separatism charges, maybe some of those cases were bad, but it was not a threat to "the people".
The fact that the argument has to lean into technicalities and attributed unspoken intentions rather than actual horrors should say everything.
Re:China sentences official to death for taking $325M in bribes
by nkmnz on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @01:51PM
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There are people saying all the Jews were still alive in Germany. For a matter of fact, I've recently been to a jewish restaurant. The owners seemed fine.
Re:China sentences official to death for taking $325M in bribes
by nixon_why69 on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @08:19PM
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And those people are cranks because we have tons of evidence of the holocaust.
Conversely, in this case, Adrian Zenz is a crank because for a decade he's been unable to put up any. In an era where every single person carries a high def video camera in their pocket. It's a faith-based accusation.
Re:China sentences official to death for taking $325M in bribes
by warumdarum on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @04:06PM
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What if a culture is genocidal and hellbent in removing all minorities from its surroundings? Like nazis driving everything away in a wave of conquest? Is extinction of this genocide? Look at the minority histograms of the middle east for example
So “Uyghur restaurants still exist” or “Uyghur people still exist” does not answer the legal question. The relevant question is whether the group’s cultural, religious, familial, or biological continuity is being targeted as a group. It's enough to do this in a single village.
This may sound like a grammar nitpick, but I think it points to the actual issue: “the people still exist and are fine” does not answer the genocide question.
Genocide is not simply about whether “the people” — individual members of a group — still exist. It is about whether a people — a protected group as such — is being targeted for destruction, in whole or in part.
So the relevant question is not merely whether “the people still exist and are fine,” but whether a people still exists as a people, and whether it is fine culturally, religiously, socially, biologically, and institutionally.
In this particular case, I don’t claim to have enough information to make a final judgment. But the fact that so little independent journalism and investigation is possible must be blamed on the CCP and cannot be treated as counterevidence. Unlike individual human beings in a court of law, governments that suppress a free press and block independent investigations should not receive the benefit of the doubt in the court of public opinion.