Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d...
by ShellfishMeme on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @05:36PM
(#48824205)
You can switch them off but only until the engine is turned off again. Most manufacturers have a shortcut on the dashboard or steering wheel though. Eventually you just get used to doing that every time you start driving.
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Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d...
by toast0 on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @06:30PM
(#48824899)
Depends on the car (and the regulatory regime, I'd imagine). My fancy pants 2025 car is happy to leave driver alertness detection disabled, which is handy because it's not good. Of course my ultra base model 1981 van doesn't have any features... it's a lot more fun to drive, other than the engine noise is pretty oppressive on a drive any significant length oh and the floor is missing where the accelerator pedal should mount :P
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d...
by londons_explore on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @06:29PM
(#48824887)
There'll be firmware hacks to force that mode soon enough.
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d...
by Scoundreller on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @06:55PM
(#48825122)
You wouldn’t download a bookmarklet on your car
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d...
by bigiain on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @07:19PM
(#48825343)
"Download NoBeepPro for Android Auto now! It silences all unwanted warning sound, and totally doesn't surreptitiously enroll your car into a residential proxy service or mine crypto currency using your main power or hybrid battery!"
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d...
by ssl-3 on Thursday July 09, 2026 @03:12AM
(#48842038)
That hasn't broadly happened yet, and it's even less likely to happen in the future with encrypted comms and locked-down firmware increasingly becoming the rule instead of the exception.
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d...
by frollogaston on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @08:40PM
(#48825973)
That works. I already got so used to disabling ESC on start that I do it unconsciously at this point, can't even recall afterwards that I did it. (My car is old and has a glitchy ESC)
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d...
by Ccecil on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @10:42PM
(#48826869)
I saw a mod where there was an arduino/lcd setup on the dash of an Audi to turn off the ESC and other annoyances on startup.
I turn mine off quite often. On dirt roads and snow.
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d...
by frollogaston on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @03:29PM
(#48836360)
Yeah, there are ways if you figure out the manufacturer specifics. Thought it'd be fun to try capturing and replaying CAN messages, gave up cause whatever cheapo CAN to USB adapter I got wasn't working with my Linux laptop. Probably could've figured it out but decided it wasn't worth risking my 2005 Quattroporte with something that was feeling increasingly jank. Autel scanner already gave me all the read-only access I needed, including clutch wear.
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d...
by Ccecil on Thursday July 09, 2026 @03:39AM
(#48842237)
I recommend "the car hackers handbook".
Gives you all the info you need including software.
Great start to knowing what the CAN is doing.
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d...
by frollogaston on Thursday July 09, 2026 @08:22PM
(#48854259)
That one is good. I did actually start there, just bought the wrong stuff :S
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d...
by freetonik on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @03:28AM
(#48828722)
>...until the engine is turned off again
Modern electric Volkswagens (and some other brands) have this amazingly awful feature where lifting your ass off the driver's seat turns off the "ignition". The car just shuts off immediately, AC turns off, CarPlay disconnects, those driver settings reset. Even if I sit back one second later.
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d...
by Cthulhu_ on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @04:14AM
(#48829073)
...even while driving?
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d...
by gf000 on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @05:08AM
(#48829487)
Fairly sure that it won't turn off while the wheels are spinning at any speed -- with the engine off, you also lose power steering in most cases and can trivially cause an accident. Car manufacturers are not this dumb.