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Re:Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN i... by throw386322 on Thursday July 02, 2026 @05:19AM (#48758661)
This argument works both ways.

Netanyahu was born in Tel Aviv. You think he is “illegal” in Israel because of his DNA?

Re:Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN i... by hardbass on Thursday July 02, 2026 @09:09AM (#48761000)
He is a second generation illegal immigrant of course. I am not making any DNA arguments, I don't support ethnostates. That's Israel's argument, and by Israel's argument, I believe it should be completely justified to deport jews from other countries, since purportedly all jews are genetically and culturally Israeli, and its not proper for a person to have dual loyalties in terms of the countries they are loyal to.
Re:Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN i... by gershy on Thursday July 02, 2026 @10:42AM (#48762386)
"All jews are culturally israeli" is an extremely ignorant statement.
Re:Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN i... by hardbass on Thursday July 02, 2026 @02:11PM (#48765304)
You were the one repeatedly saying all jews have some sort of magic connection to Israel. If I misread and you meant Israelis have a connection to that land, that still begs the question. Not everyone purportedly "Israeli" made the transition there and the question still remains valid, more concretely to people with dual citizenships.
Re:Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN i... by gershy on Thursday July 02, 2026 @04:16PM (#48766788)
Israeli culture is roughly jewish + middle-eastern culture. American jews have jewish + american culture. American jews would find they read the exact same prayers as israeli jews, can immediately feel comfortable in synagoge; relate to israeli jews in terms of values and religion, but would be shocked by, e.g., the middle-eastern-style haggling in israel markets, the directness of israelis, etc. The judaism is the overlap, otherwise very different.
Re:Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN i... by hardbass on Friday July 03, 2026 @03:34AM (#48772038)
Yes without doubt, obviously a person from NY would have a different culture than a person from Haifa or whatever. I think I misread you on that.
Re:Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN i... by throw386322 on Thursday July 02, 2026 @10:24AM (#48762107)
His family migrated legally in 1920.

You are making a straw-man argument about Israel, which is 20% Arab and is not calling for them to be deported. The “dual loyalties” bit is something you got out of your side’s trope archive.

Re:Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN i... by hardbass on Thursday July 02, 2026 @02:11PM (#48765301)
If his family immigrated in 1920, then its probably fine, they should probably have legal land ownership deeds from the British government.

Why, what is a trope about that? Dual loyalties is a valid question to ask any immigrant or person who declares himself to have his other or real home elsewhere. Which many (not all) jews often do with regard to Israel. Its the same for Chinese, Indians, Nigerians or any other group.

Dual nationals or people who feel loyalty to Israel should of course have the freedom of speech like anyone else to say they feel affinity toward any country. But the test I use to answer this question is, should their country launch a war against Israel, which side will they fight for?

>The “dual loyalties” bit is something you got out of your side’s trope archive.

That's a very pleasant accusation of course. What "side" do you think mine is?