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Re:ZCode: Claude Code from the Makers of GLM by saghm on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @04:38PM (#48752781)
Given that there's such severe concern being expressed by Anthropic about Claude being distilled, and the idea that the harness is part of the the moat, it doesn't seem super surprising that the other side of that would try to also make it harder for them to tell how well they're doing and what their approach is.
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Re:ZCode: Claude Code from the Makers of GLM by JSR_FDED on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @06:40PM (#48754094)
Unlikely considering they’re publishing the Crown Jewels (GLM 5.2) as open weights.
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Re:ZCode: Claude Code from the Makers of GLM by lelanthran on Thursday July 02, 2026 @02:55AM (#48757518)
> and the idea that the harness is part of the the moat,

That idea is wrong, though. These same people thinking harnesses are part of a moat are also boasting that s/ware is easily writable now.

There's no secret sauce in a harness that you can't vibe-code into your own harness.

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Re:ZCode: Claude Code from the Makers of GLM by jorisw on Thursday July 02, 2026 @05:11AM (#48758605)
> vibe-code into your own

Except you'd need the knowledge of what to vibe-code, no?

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Re:ZCode: Claude Code from the Makers of GLM by lelanthran on Thursday July 02, 2026 @08:01AM (#48760083)
> Except you'd need the knowledge of what to vibe-code, no?

What knowledge? If you've used a harness, you know what it is supposed to do for you!

What further knowledge do you need that can't be extracted from an existing harness?

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Re:ZCode: Claude Code from the Makers of GLM by saghm on Thursday July 02, 2026 @11:13AM (#48762886)
Why don't the major players open source their harnesses then? As far as I'm aware, the only time the source code for the Claude harness became available, it was due to a mistake (which is it's own whole thing).

I'm not saying you're wrong necessarily, but I do think that when the actions and words of a company conflict, it's a pretty safe bet that the words are just posturing and the actions better reflect their actual belief. In this case, regardless of what they're saying about software being easily writable now, they clearly seem to at least think there's something valuable in the harness if they're not open sourcing it.

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