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Re:US Supreme Court rules geofence warrants require constitu... by DiscourseFan on Monday June 29, 2026 @06:18PM (#48726074)
Damn its almost as if juries exist to act as the sovereign so the violence which sustains the law can be vested in a general public that cannot be held accountable as a whole, similarly to how at least one member of a firing squad always has a blank.
Re:US Supreme Court rules geofence warrants require constitu... by jjk166 on Monday June 29, 2026 @06:38PM (#48726278)
Or perhaps the standards of evidence established for a pre-industrial society when eye-witness testimony was the best that could reasonably be achieved is not necessarily the optimal system for a digital society where everyone carries a high definition video camera in their pocket at all times.
Re:US Supreme Court rules geofence warrants require constitu... by DiscourseFan on Monday June 29, 2026 @09:54PM (#48727682)
Yes a high definition video camera that is slowly becoming indistinguishable (and has always been subject to tampering regardless) from an artificially generated version. We never have anything beyond judgement.
Re:US Supreme Court rules geofence warrants require constitu... by expedition32 on Monday June 29, 2026 @11:33PM (#48728216)
This is why crimes used to have prosecution time limits. Nobody expected eye witness accounts to surface after 40 years. But DNA is eternal.
Re:US Supreme Court rules geofence warrants require constitu... by DiscourseFan on Monday June 29, 2026 @11:39PM (#48728245)
DNA is not eternal, but neither is anyone's memory trustworthy for that long.
Re:US Supreme Court rules geofence warrants require constitu... by cucumber3732842 on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @05:58AM (#48730517)
Prosecution time limits and those pesky rights people have is why so much stuff that would've been simple misdemeanors 70+yr ago is now "administrative" and "civil" law.
Re:US Supreme Court rules geofence warrants require constitu... by broken-kebab on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @10:00AM (#48732873)
But in what way do you believe these standards are inadequate? Video from phones is used in courts when available and admissible.
Re:US Supreme Court rules geofence warrants require constitu... by chpatrick on Monday June 29, 2026 @08:33PM (#48727141)
I think the idea is to test (with the jury as a sample) if the evidence is compelling enough for society at large to agree with the verdict. It's rarely going to be 100% clear cut so the jury has to use their judgment.
Re:US Supreme Court rules geofence warrants require constitu... by autoexec on Monday June 29, 2026 @09:19PM (#48727477)
> I think the idea is to test (with the jury as a sample) if the evidence is compelling enough for society at large to agree with the verdict.

Exactly. It's all about consent of the governed. We need the government to prove that they've got a valid reason to take someone's freedom before we let them do it. That's also why jury nullification is so important. It's another check on government to make sure that we feel that the laws we're being held to and the punishments we'll face when they are broken are acceptable.

Re:US Supreme Court rules geofence warrants require constitu... by notamario on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @02:03AM (#48729013)
Jury nullification is a double edged sword. There are near countless examples of a jury determining a white man killing a black man isn’t a valid reason to take the white man’s freedom.