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Re:U.S. Science Is in Chaos by vjvjvjvjghv on Wednesday June 17, 2026 @05:11PM (#48576988)
I honestly think the decline started sometime in the 80s when it was accepted that everything is solely about profits and nothing else. It took a while but the enshittification of the country is accelerating. The latest developments are in my view just a symptom of this much longer trend.
Re:U.S. Science Is in Chaos by anon84873628 on Wednesday June 17, 2026 @07:58PM (#48578708)
Bingo. Michael Wolff illustrates nicely how Trump is the literal embodiment of the "greed is good" 80's culture.

Of course we also have Ronald Reagan to thank. And that administration spawned the career of John Roberts, which we can now see as a through line to the destruction of The Court.

Re:U.S. Science Is in Chaos by jarjoura on Wednesday June 17, 2026 @10:31PM (#48579904)
It's a bit reductive to pin this on Ronald Reagan.

The entire western world had been shifting towards neoliberalism as a direct response to the eastern world shifting towards communism since WW2.

Trump also isn't the embodiment of anything other than the guy who didn't take it seriously and suddenly ended up with the job because the voters in the country decided it couldn't be any worse under him than whatever the current situation they were living with was.

Re:U.S. Science Is in Chaos by 0xbadcafebee on Thursday June 18, 2026 @12:24AM (#48580786)
Or you could go all the way back to Reconstruction. The same way that an embittered Germany led to WWII, we are living with an embittered, mutant form of Confederate culture taking its revenge on the Union that put it down 160 years ago. The current culture war intermingles Southern Christian Conservative and Neoliberal interests. They're angry that the world has rapidly grown more progressive, as much as they're angry they lost their war. It might only take 5-10 years and eventually swing back, but it could also get worse, if their leaders become more extreme (strongman leaders often do get worse, as do religious extremists).
Re:U.S. Science Is in Chaos by giardini on Thursday June 18, 2026 @01:05AM (#48581038)
0xbadcafebee says "Or you could go all the way back to Reconstruction."

Absurdist leftist fantasism or, more likely, true paranoid schizophrenia. Are you taking your meds?

Re:U.S. Science Is in Chaos by anon84873628 on Thursday June 18, 2026 @05:12PM (#48591684)
That's exactly how Professor Sean Wilentz put it on one of his podcast episodes. He referred to it as "the politics of the aggrieved" I believe, while tracing the literary and legal influences from then until now.
Re:U.S. Science Is in Chaos by anon84873628 on Thursday June 18, 2026 @05:19PM (#48591780)
Trump is the embodiment of a culture that was willing to make that vote. Of the populace that was tricked by The Apprentice and The Art of the Deal. Of the media more concerned with engagement than information. He spent his lifetime curating the image that made him uniquely positioned for his role, even if he didn't expect to get it.