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Re:Volkswagen started blocking GrapheneOS users by hydrogen7800 on Wednesday June 17, 2026 @05:08PM (#48576939)
>Make sure that dealers know why you changed your mind.

"Some nerd couldn't use their nerd phone."

What incentive does a dealer have to know or care about this?

Re:Volkswagen started blocking GrapheneOS users by LollipopYakuza on Wednesday June 17, 2026 @05:25PM (#48577141)
As a dealer, it would be frustrating especially because it is so silly. Basically, if they report any of this to HQ, it would be along the line of "I am losing the sale of a whole car over some stupid app block".
Re:Volkswagen started blocking GrapheneOS users by theeyescanner on Wednesday June 17, 2026 @07:20PM (#48578385)
Net Promoter Scores is the only thing that the marketing department cares about. So fill out that customer satisfaction survey, give them a 1 out of 5, and say why. Passives (2-4) are not even considered lol.
Re:Volkswagen started blocking GrapheneOS users by sufficientsoup on Wednesday June 17, 2026 @07:28PM (#48578469)
What incentive does a dealer have to know or care why a sale fell through? Bizarre question
Re:Volkswagen started blocking GrapheneOS users by hydrogen7800 on Wednesday June 17, 2026 @08:41PM (#48579047)
I'm thinking that the effort required to make that one sale in a thousand is not worth it. The 999 others didn't complain about that.
Re:Volkswagen started blocking GrapheneOS users by nicce on Thursday June 18, 2026 @05:23AM (#48582898)
I think that it is not fair comparison. More likely X % changed their mind and did not go through the purchase. Nobody except this one told the reason? If only this is said aloud, dealers might even make assumptions that maybe others did the decision for same reason, but just did not say it.
Re:Volkswagen started blocking GrapheneOS users by sowbug on Wednesday June 17, 2026 @05:49PM (#48577386)
You could make a similar argument about voting in democratic elections. It's still important to vote.
Re:Volkswagen started blocking GrapheneOS users by unethical_ban on Wednesday June 17, 2026 @05:53PM (#48577427)
What is the risk of letting them know that someone lost trust in VW's features due to a boneheaded decision of their software group and decided not to buy that brand at all?
Re:Volkswagen started blocking GrapheneOS users by SapporoChris on Thursday June 18, 2026 @02:34AM (#48581566)
I wonder what a Venn Diagram of people that use GrapheneOS and people that wish to purchase a Volkswagen vehicle looks like. As of April 2026, the operating system had approximately 400K active users. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GrapheneOS

I wish that Volkswagen would care about this, but I suspect they have little incentive to do so.

Re:Volkswagen started blocking GrapheneOS users by thiht on Thursday June 18, 2026 @04:41AM (#48582575)
Volkswagen has a 10% market share in Europe (25% if you consider the whole group: Audi, Cupra, etc.)

Assuming 25% (might be overinflated) of GrapheneOS are European, that’s 10000 European GrapheneOS users who would buy a Volkswagen car (assuming an unbiased distribution of GrapheneOS users, which is probably not the case though).

I don’t think Volkswagen is in a strong position to say they don’t care about 10000 sales in Europe only.

Re:Volkswagen started blocking GrapheneOS users by SapporoChris on Thursday June 18, 2026 @07:28AM (#48583775)
Good point. I wasn't considering the different concentrations of interests by area.
Re:Volkswagen started blocking GrapheneOS users by theandrewbailey on Thursday June 18, 2026 @07:39AM (#48583886)
That number might grow substantially when Motorola releases GrapheneOS phones.