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Re:Tor operator charged for child porn transmitted over his ... by anigbrowl on Friday November 30, 2012 @04:29PM (#4855561)
just happens to also be used for preserving privacy

As if there were no correlation between that and the use of the service for distributing CP. I'm sorry, but I find it hard to get exercised about the invasion of privacy aspect, considering much greater invasions of both person and privacy that take place in the manufacture of child pornography. Liberty does not subsist in the oppression of others.

Re:Tor operator charged for child porn transmitted over his ... by mistercow on Friday November 30, 2012 @04:49PM (#4855651)
It's not possible to create a system which protects the anonymity and privacy of users with integrity, but not of criminals. The cost of a free society is that sometimes people will do bad things and get away with it.

As regards Tor, it's extremely debatable that its existence has any impact at all on the distribution of child pornography. If you don't care about hurting people, there are way more effective ways to protect your anonymity than Tor.

In addition, Tor is an incredibly useful tool for fighting corruption in countries where online privacy would otherwise be non-existent.

So on the one hand it's a tool that gives anonymity to a group that already has it. On the other hand, it's a tool that aids in reducing human rights abuses across the board, including human trafficking.

Re:Tor operator charged for child porn transmitted over his ... by Hannan on Friday November 30, 2012 @05:03PM (#4855705)
>> It's not possible to create a system which protects the and privacy of users with integrity, but not of criminals.

Do you have more information or references on this? It seems very intuitively correct to me, but I was hoping someone much more intelligent than me has actually formalized somehow.

Re:Tor operator charged for child porn transmitted over his ... by erjiang on Friday November 30, 2012 @06:12PM (#4855993)
Actually, just consider that illegality is defined by other humans, often arbitrarily.

A system that protects the privacy of users who have "American" free speech is simultaneously a system that protects "criminals" who violate blasphemy, royal-insult, obscenity, or any number of other laws in other countries.

Re:Tor operator charged for child porn transmitted over his ... by mistercow on Friday November 30, 2012 @05:31PM (#4855839)
I'm not sure there's any way to formalize it really. It follows pretty much in one step from the axiom "your computer doesn't know if you're scum or not". And if we had the strong AI needed to change that, we'd just be letting a computer invade our privacy and judge us instead of a human or government.
Re:Tor operator charged for child porn transmitted over his ... by tzs on Friday November 30, 2012 @07:30PM (#4856263)
Every time the AI checks and finds out that you are not a scum, its memory could be wiped so that it retains no knowledge of anything private it learned about you during the check.
Re:Tor operator charged for child porn transmitted over his ... by mistercow on Saturday December 01, 2012 @11:14AM (#4858020)
That only solves one minor issue with loss of privacy.
Re:Tor operator charged for child porn transmitted over his ... by kevinskii on Friday November 30, 2012 @05:37PM (#4855863)
The sentiments of the parent comment may differ from yours (and mine), but they are intelligently stated and do not deserve to be downvoted.