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Re:How to Earn a Billion Dollars by saghm on Sunday June 14, 2026 @10:42AM (#48527673)
I mean "not earned through work", as evidenced by your description of it "as as sitting there". Risk isn't the same as work.
Re:How to Earn a Billion Dollars by twoodfin on Sunday June 14, 2026 @11:03AM (#48527895)
What is being “extracted” from what?

I described it as “sitting there” to contrast my viewpoint that in fact it’s not being “extracted” from anything as far as I can tell.

Re:How to Earn a Billion Dollars by inigyou on Sunday June 14, 2026 @01:05PM (#48529696)
Some Nvidia employees are making graphics cards, that cost $1000, and use $300 of materials, and being paid $200. $500 is being extracted from the value chain at that point and some of that is going to you because you own Nvidia stock.
Re:How to Earn a Billion Dollars by twoodfin on Sunday June 14, 2026 @02:03PM (#48530514)
Ah, the labor theory of value. That makes sense.

It’s totally incoherent and unreliable as an explanation for an economy, but it explains the comments in this thread.

Re:How to Earn a Billion Dollars by inigyou on Sunday June 14, 2026 @04:13PM (#48532123)
Did you reply to the wrong comment by mistake?
Re:How to Earn a Billion Dollars by twoodfin on Sunday June 14, 2026 @05:44PM (#48533117)
What would that $500 not being “extracted from the value chain” look like?
Re:How to Earn a Billion Dollars by inigyou on Sunday June 14, 2026 @06:23PM (#48533512)
It would either be passed along the chain or it would not enter the chain.
Re:How to Earn a Billion Dollars by twoodfin on Sunday June 14, 2026 @07:59PM (#48534539)
Seriously, what does “passed along the chain” look like in your example?
Re:How to Earn a Billion Dollars by inigyou on Monday June 15, 2026 @07:15AM (#48539636)
Given to the people who create the value.
Re:How to Earn a Billion Dollars by twoodfin on Monday June 15, 2026 @07:37AM (#48539829)
How is that distinct from the labor theory of value? In your model, who’s creating the value other than the labor?
Re:How to Earn a Billion Dollars by inigyou on Wednesday June 17, 2026 @11:40AM (#48572016)
A GPU is worth $10k. When someone brings a GPU into existence it creates $10k of value. What is needed to bring a GPU into existence?
Re:How to Earn a Billion Dollars by twoodfin on Wednesday June 17, 2026 @08:37PM (#48579020)
Well, for one thing, billions of dollars of capital!
Re:How to Earn a Billion Dollars by zarathustreal on Sunday June 14, 2026 @11:03AM (#48527885)
Do you think “work” means literally “manual labor”?
Re:How to Earn a Billion Dollars by well_ackshually on Sunday June 14, 2026 @11:37AM (#48528375)
Work means the creation of things. Clicking on stocks for your 401k is not working.
Re:How to Earn a Billion Dollars by zarathustreal on Sunday June 14, 2026 @12:04PM (#48528771)
The counter-examples are so obvious it makes me feel that pointing them out wouldn’t actually help you understand reality
Re:How to Earn a Billion Dollars by ForHackernews on Monday June 15, 2026 @09:47AM (#48541234)
The counter-examples are so obvious you didn't feel the need to cite even one?

Please provide an example of how logging in to fidelity.com to see that today my net worth increased by a multiple of my annual salary constitutes "work". Define your terms so it's clear to readers.

Re:How to Earn a Billion Dollars by twoodfin on Monday June 15, 2026 @07:17PM (#48548393)
If I spend 30 minutes this week looking at my investments, but a fund manager spends 60 hours, that’s a difference in quality and quantity not kind.
Re:How to Earn a Billion Dollars by ForHackernews on Tuesday June 16, 2026 @06:50AM (#48553260)
Fund managers are paid to do a job by the owners of capital. Obviously that job is is work. The overwhelming majority of the gains accrue to the owners, and only a small fraction to the diligent fund manager who did the work.

Are you sure you tried to come up with a counter example?

Re:How to Earn a Billion Dollars by twoodfin on Wednesday June 17, 2026 @08:42PM (#48579056)
Now you’re just question-begging.

If the only kind of “work” is “selling your labor” then sure, but I think a farmer tilling his own soil is “working”.

Re:How to Earn a Billion Dollars by thrance on Sunday June 14, 2026 @02:28PM (#48530836)
Work implies the creation of value: physical artifacts, services, or more generally, stuff that adds to the world. Capital gails isn't work, you're getting money without adding anything to the world.