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Re:Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York ... by unselect5917 on Saturday June 13, 2026 @07:26PM (#48522503)
If our press was honest, every story you heard about Russia would have been about Israel instead. Israel is overwhelmingly America's worst enemy and they distract from that by pretending Russia/Iran/China/Qatar is. No other country blackmails our politicians or steals so much of our money, military resources, soldier lives as much as Israel. There's no close competitor even.

Yet we're never told that explicitly and it's never framed as the abusive relationship that it is.

Makes you really wonder who the press works for.

Re:Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York ... by warumdarum on Saturday June 13, 2026 @07:42PM (#48522595)
Its a small unimportant beachstrip only weirdos and islamo supremacists obsess over.
Re:Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York ... by unselect5917 on Saturday June 13, 2026 @07:51PM (#48522663)
'islamo supremacists', but not jewish supremacists? The ones just spontaneously moved into a land where people already lived 75 years ago aren't responsible?

Literally DARVO.

is a reaction that perpetrators of wrongdoing, such as abusers, narcissists, or sexual offenders, may display in response to being held accountable for their behavior. Research indicates that it is a common manipulation strategy of psychological abusers.

Re:Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York ... by strictnein on Saturday June 13, 2026 @10:37PM (#48523661)
Jews represented a third of the population of the entire British Mandate in 1947. And that's the entire thing, not the small piece of it that makes up modern day Israel. In 1936 they represented 25-30%. So I'm not sure how you're saying they "spontaneously moved into a land where people already lived 75 years ago". What actually happened is that Jews slowly returned to their ancestral homeland where they have existed, continually, for thousands of years.

When people have the history of a region this wrong, what is the cause of it? When you believe lies like this and repeat them in a public forum, does that indicate anything? Where did you learn this "fact" about them "spontaneously" appearing there 75 years ago?

Re:Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York ... by warumdarum on Sunday June 14, 2026 @04:15AM (#48525254)
Slowly? The islamo supremacists pushed them out of the whole middle east. Look at minorities map of that region over time. Thats the true horror show. The alewites murdered as revenge for assad, the druse attacked that dont make it into the newspapers, the yesidi assaulted by ISIS and driven into the aame wind the want to drive the yehudis into.
Re:Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York ... by strictnein on Sunday June 14, 2026 @05:35PM (#48533023)
I feel like you're misreading what I wrote. I was saying the Jews slowly returned to the region throughout the first half of the 20th century.

The person I was responding to stated that they all just magically appeared there "75 years ago" (not sure quite what date they're referring to with this), but that simply wasn't the case.

Re:Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York ... by warumdarum on Sunday June 14, 2026 @03:52AM (#48525120)
The jews regularly throw those settlers and supremacists to the wulfes in " land for peace deals" - ghaza, sinai, lebanon, they get papers and blue helmets and peace promises, and then again rockets, rape and suicide bombers. The later often subsidized with aid money. And the hypocrisy of europe, setting up barriers and checks near christmas markets, trainstations and then condemning israel for apartheid for doing the same.

Or inviting the proxxy-sponsors of the attacks : turkey,quatar, iran to be parts of "peace" talks. The same sort of peace talks they are now having with putin.

Want to see the real culprits? Offer the neighbors exchange deals. They send the druse and other minorities they were genociding anyway to israel and get their proxxies back in return..

They dont give a fuck about the people or who lifes how in the middle east as long as muslim lands are not ruled by unbelievers aka islamo supremacy. Just because your religion makes you powerless doesn't mean you cant dream of empires every day.

Re:Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York ... by throwaway3060 on Saturday June 13, 2026 @07:53PM (#48522691)
Russia has been weaponizing disinformation for over 100 years. You are comparing a tiny country to a former superpower. I am amazed by the frequency of comments on the Internet that need to make this comparison, somehow simultaneously relying on antisemitism and downplaying what Ukraine is going through.

Actually, maybe I'm not that surprised. Using Jews as a scapegoat has been a pretty common tactic in older Russian disinformation too.

Re:Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York ... by an0malous on Saturday June 13, 2026 @07:57PM (#48522713)
Anti-Zionism is not equivalent to antisemitism, this deceitful rhetorical trick needs to stop if you actually care about Jews. There are many Jews that oppose Zionism, and many Zionists who are not Jews
Re:Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York ... by throwaway3060 on Saturday June 13, 2026 @08:06PM (#48522780)
That, too, is a classic Russian disinformation line, from Soviet times actually where the word antizionism gained international usage, as a barely hidden legitimized alternative to antisemitism.

Maybe you don't mean it that way, but if you are going to choose to use the word, you don't get to deny how it has historically been used.

Re:Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York ... by verteu on Saturday June 13, 2026 @09:55PM (#48523428)
Opposing Israel's flagrant violations of international law is not hate speech or discrimination against Jews, regardless of how desperately you want it to be.
Re:Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York ... by 8note on Saturday June 13, 2026 @10:20PM (#48523565)
russia and israel are both regional powers.

israel also has a substantial population of russians in the form of russian jews, so if israel is following russian disinformation tactics, it probably wouldnt be hard to trace their roots