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Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by sevenzero on Friday June 12, 2026 @03:40AM (#48501051)
The more time LLMs are a hyped thing now the more I realize how immensely important human expertise is. I recently stopped all usage of LLMs due to this. Skill degradation hits hard, learning effect is zero and the outcome is not really something a person without adequate expertise can properly judge. I fear we will loose a lot of human expertise due to this marketing stunt of a technology.

People often claim learning is actually supercharged with LLMs but to me it's the opposite. I didn't learn anything within the past year.

Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by sdoering on Friday June 12, 2026 @04:02AM (#48501227)
The more woodworking tools are hyped these days, the more I realize how immensely important real craftsmanship is. I recently stopped using saws, planes, chisels, and routers because of this. Tool dependence hits hard, the learning effect is zero, and the outcome is not really something a person without adequate woodworking expertise can properly judge.

Sorry, but to me an LLM is nothing but a tool. It is not a replacement for my expertise and it is definitely not something to outsource my thinking to.

But such broad statements imho do not help us understand wh we can use these tools and how one can learn to use them in a reasonable and useful way (for our own learning as well as for the outcomes).

Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by asdfsa32 on Friday June 12, 2026 @04:23AM (#48501383)
You're very close but to woodworking AI is more akin to a 3d printer than even a CNC let alone swas and planes.

Yes, a 3d printer and not even a CNC. That difference nicely illustrates the difference of what AI brings to the table for any domain of competence.

Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by repelsteeltje on Friday June 12, 2026 @04:23AM (#48501387)
> Sorry, but to me an LLM is nothing but a tool. It is not a replacement for my expertise and it is definitely not something to outsource my thinking to.

Great on you, that's indeed how LLMs should be used, proper. But if anything, the article demonstrates someone is trying to outsource thinking to an AI agent.

Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by Splinter_enth on Friday June 12, 2026 @04:44AM (#48501539)
The irony here that if you ever do any kind of practical woodworking lessons or general hands on craft work, metal working, or any 3D, you will be encouraged to use hand-tools over bandsaws, etc. The reasoning being so you know the fundamentals of what you're trying to achieve with the more complex tools later on.

It's always held true: You'll never get the most out of advanced tools unless you can 'do it by hand' so to speak

Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by dijksterhuis on Friday June 12, 2026 @06:08AM (#48502109)
I studied computing at AS level in the UK (16-17 years old). I learned about: computer components (disks, memory, cpu), binary, ASCII, assembly and machine code. We programmed in Turbo Pascal. I then spent ten years doing non-computer things until I came back to a masters. I was one of the top students in my masters because i didn't need help with fundamentals. The other top student had previously made contributions to the linux kernel (even though he was a philosophy grad...).

The argument for having autonomous LLMs/Agents often ends up as "none of us need to know about assembly, why do i need to know about the code?".

I cringe every time I see this argument.